Thread: No need for Tribulus

Originally Posted by Pro H

And remember i sell Both trib and methoxy products.

UHF

Why? You've just poured a massive bucket of shit on your products, so I assume you'll stop stocking trib now? or will you keep taking the "sucker's" cash?

Please.

I would stop selling Trib but its so well known in the industry as a test booster and people keep requesting it so i stock it. I continually suggest an alternative but i can not force anyone to buy a certain product.

And who am i to say no to a customer if they believe they feel an effect or train harder on a trib product they are still achieving there goals.

UHF, thanks for the abusive PM,

"55 posts and who are you ?
Thanks for contributing to my threads it proves my theory of the standard of member you are.
I could delete them but id prefer people to read them and think "wow this cminoz guy is a dic"
As for the studies re read them slowly you may retain somethng.
UHF"

To follow on from your more polite response that you post in the "public forum" -
1) I dont doubt that there are better products out there than trib, because it doesnt work.
2)Again, I agree, Test Enanthate, Prop, Cyp etc are great examples - Methoxy is not.
3) I have done enough research to formulate my own opinion and make up my own mind. I have not refuted your evidence relating to Androstenetrione, just Methoxy, which you have not countered with any proof to the contrary.

If you post false or unsubstantiated claims I will quite happily call you on it, feel free to send me as many abusive messages as you like behind the scenes - or as you say, you could delete my posts because they disagree with your point of view.

CM

59 posts now, must make me a more knowledgeable member based on your scale

If you think that is abusive you have lived a very sheltered life.

Grow up do some research and retain the knowledge taken from researching.

But thankyou for comparing Androstenetrione to Steroids proves my point again.

Id better explain my point just for you.

Test Ethenate Prop (steroids) etc can you buy them OTC ?

And Androstenetrione can you buy that here in OZ otc?

So now that we are comparing Androstenetrione to steroids and not everyone knows a dealer. Which is stronger ? Trib or Androstenetrione ?

Androstenetrione which brings me back to my original post NO need for trib.

Ive enjoyed this circle have you?

UHF

I have never doubted the validity of any information relating to Androstenetrione - my points have been relating Methoxy, so why dont you read the research I have provided on this subject, then justify selling two products that have no proof of working other than providing a placebo effect. And if you think that by someone improving their training as a result of this placebo effect you have in some way benefited them or the industry in general, then you are sadly mistaken. Why not just sell products that work and are proven to work; and when asked for a product like trib or methoxy that clearly don't, provide some education on what might work. In the long term you will have a much more informed and loyal client base. Just dont sell the unproven hype about a product, because most of subscribers to this site can spot marketing bullsh1t a mile off, and that was what started this thread in the first place.

And yes, I have enjoyed the discussion, so we are agreed that there is no proof relating to Methoxy, or Trib but some on Androstenetrione?

Originally Posted by CMinOZ

And yes, I have enjoyed the discussion, so we are agreed that there is no proof relating to Methoxy, or Trib but some on Androstenetrione?

Actually, there's conflicting studies on Trib out there at an androgen level, but a lot of positive studies on improved sexual function. There is still a lot debate about the mechanism by which Trib works and until more research is done, we won't know for sure.

A key issue when discussing "test boosters" is that, imo, they are very much age-dependent and that if baseline hormone levels are low then a greater response will be "felt". I know at my fossilised age Trib is a very effective tool and I continue to use it on and off.

Sorry T2 but the man from the supplement company says it doesn't work, so that must be true.

Originally Posted by CMinOZ

Sorry T2 but the man from the supplement company says it doesn't work, so that must be true.

LOL..... fair point.

I must be unique.....


No wait.... I AM !!!!! :)

To the OP. I personally tried 3 bottles of novedex XT at 3 a night and got fantastic gains, no bloodwork but size and strength gains were enough for me. I also feel a benefit to tribulis in terms of aggression in the gym and enhanced libido and will use it again.

Based on how well the Novedex XT worked id like to try androstenetrione in the future and it most probobly seek it from your site thanks to your advertisement here.

Thanks. I see your trying to make your business grow and have no problem at all with that. Youre a sponsor of this site are you not? I can certainly see points for argument in this thread but give the guy a break

pro h,why dont you do the study yourself,perhaps offer a month supply to someone ,do blood test before and after and see the outcome,you could do this on yourself,but i would personally like it to be offered to a member so that way we know the results werent tampered,

showing all this bullshit studies,going back and forth means fuck all to the people in australia,we work hard for our money and expect products that stand by there label,

I have actually just dropped the price of Androstenetrione as i will be Selling Andrenosterone.
Androstenetrione has dropped from 95.99 to 89.99.

UHF

I believe T2 has bloods with Androstenetrione from what i remember he experienced Test Increase as well as slight estrogen. I think.

T2 was that on Androstenetrione or ATD ?

As for a test subject i have dozens of clients on this supplement some get there bloods done others dont some use it for PCT others for the compounds Testosterone Increases.

But i will say this ALL gain Lean Muscle and Strength.

I personally used it alot when i was an athlete and made massive gains. I was 130kg 12%BF. Alot of that was diet but a big part was the supplements i was on and Andro was one of the main supps i used. Which is why i sell it today and push it and compare it to what else is out there, cause i believe there is no better supp for Lean muscle mass and strength.

I still say forget the OTC rubbish and try and lower your E and SHBG, 2 proven ways of doing this -

ZINC & BROCCOLI

Originally Posted by Andypoo

I still say forget the OTC rubbish and try and lower your E and SHBG, 2 proven ways of doing this -

ZINC & BROCCOLI

Good advice. We do tend to focus too narrowly I think.