Thread: Hints and tips to mix up or perfect your training:

Part 1 and 2 of the above are an abbreviated version of each of the ways to avoid a "pause" in your training.
If you are interested on learning any of them but more in depth, then let me know.
All 9 points get totally covered and used on myself within 4 weeks.
Routines just don't exist for me. Im ALWAYS doing ATLEAST 1 OR 2 in that list of 9 every single week. That is the tolerance that i have built upto in order to keep gaining.
Simply doing the same thing week after week...even more than 3 weeks in a row for me, and i am feeling stale and doesn't even feel like ive had a workout sometimes.
Others will just have to use one of the 9 i have mentioned to keep them going for another 2 months though.

Enjoy!

Yeah great posts here, I love doing DC style ( I know there are a lot of haters :D:D ) then switching back to milos style giant sets, i prob do a little different but the theory is there :D

I just keep the number of different exercises a little lower, as its hard to "reserve" so many machines during peak hrs, but still try to hit the muscle being worked from so many different angles, really takes it outta you, and the strange looks you get when your loading up the BB for benches with a single 20kg is priceless :D:D

awsum finished reading thorugh good posts mo, thank you

Great read mate,

I'm curious though would you recommend this style of training for the armature BBer that is just sorta starting out? with say only 1-2 years up there sleeve, and really only just starting to get a foundation.

Or is this style of training mainly for the more experienced BBer that is coming up against plateau's ect?

Originally Posted by Tex

Great read mate,

I'm curious though would you recommend this style of training for the armature BBer that is just sorta starting out? with say only 1-2 years up there sleeve, and really only just starting to get a foundation.

Or is this style of training mainly for the more experienced BBer that is coming up against plateau's ect?

Only the individual will be able to answer that.
Do they need a change because they are not progressing further?
Its all here in black and white if they do.

I think you are taking all this the wrong way when you are wording it like "would you recomend this style of training for the amature bodybuilder just starting out". What style of training?
These are things that you use for only a week at a time to break up what your body has been used to week in week out.
So why can't a person just starting out use some of these techniques if he has "hit a wall"? Is there a requirment that you must have X amount of years behind you before you can try something new?

No, of course not.

The only differance between someone who is an amature with 1-2 years of training behind them and a professional with 6-8 years behind them is that it would take only 1 or 2 techniques at most from this thread to give the person with a year or 2 of training behind them to break through a barrier in a certain bodypart and at only for 1 week at a time where as it would take the professional maybe 5-6 different techniques from this thread and at maybe a month at a time to break through what he was previously used to.

Less is required to get a person who is new in lifting weights going in their goals where it would take more to get someone who is more experianced. Its called tolerance and what the body is/has been used to.
Thats the only differance, but of course anyone NEEDING a change can try it.

Thankyou very much MO keep up the posts. Top stuff.

Originally Posted by Magic Oils

Only the individual will be able to answer that.
Do they need a change because they are not progressing further?
Its all here in black and white if they do.

I think you are taking all this the wrong way when you are wording it like "would you recomend this style of training for the amature bodybuilder just starting out". What style of training?
These are things that you use for only a week at a time to break up what your body has been used to week in week out.
So why can't a person just starting out use some of these techniques if he has "hit a wall"? Is there a requirment that you must have X amount of years behind you before you can try something new?

No, of course not.

The only differance between someone who is an amature with 1-2 years of training behind them and a professional with 6-8 years behind them is that it would take only 1 or 2 techniques at most from this thread to give the person with a year or 2 of training behind them to break through a barrier in a certain bodypart and at only for 1 week at a time where as it would take the professional maybe 5-6 different techniques from this thread and at maybe a month at a time to break through what he was previously used to.

Less is required to get a person who is new in lifting weights going in their goals where it would take more to get someone who is more experianced. Its called tolerance and what the body is/has been used to.
Thats the only differance, but of course anyone NEEDING a change can try it.

Thanks for the reply mate was just what I was after.

love this thread, it's given me heaps of ideas to test out already tried something of a giant set with back when the gym was quiet the other day. Thanks MO.

Good stuff MO, I've had a couple of weeks off with a fairly serious back injury, but your posts are keeping me motivated. I can't wait to start training again, and try out a few of your variations..
Before Bigrig leaves me way behind...:(

Just want to say a public congratulations to member Caveman who read this thread and took on the challenge.
A congratulations more so to someone who was a believer in lifting excessively heavy to target muscles and took on a 3-4 week challenge in doing it my way.

We went through a mix of giant and normal progressive sets and i can finally confirm that 110kg guys do actaually cry! :D

Results spoke for themselves with the big guy.
Hope you stick with it Caveman.
It was nice training with you!

Originally Posted by Magic Oils

Just want to say a public congratulations to member Caveman who read this thread and took on the challenge.
A congratulations more so to someone who was a believer in lifting excessively heavy to target muscles and took on a 3-4 week challenge in doing it my way.

Went through a mix of giant and normal progressive sets and i can finally confirm that 110kg guys do actaually cry! :D

Results spoke for themselves with the big guy.
Hope you stick with it Caveman.
It was nice training with you!

great news mo,

how many days is he training?obviously a split routine,

ive worked out that a 3 day split has worked out better for me and get more push out of my muscles,

they just feel like they get the right amount of rest before getting back into it,

keep it up c.man,

I have been doing BB for about 6 years seriously and on and off before that. I have trained with alot of acomplished body builders and thought I knew ALOT about training. Simply heavy, reasonable form, low reps and failure. Pretty much sumed up my training strategy.

I read magic post about training. ALOT of it made sense so I decided to give it a go. I walked in the gym and saw a big bloke who was packed with muscle. After the usual intro. We walked to the free weights area to do a shoulders workout. I sat on the bench and Magic gets these 5 kilo dumbells, I thought "Who the f*ck is this bloke getting the weights for. I hope there not for me." (As a big bloke it was a matter of pride that you throw big weights around). (embarrasingly) He hands me the weights and has me do the strictest set of raise and presses I have ever done in my life. After the warm up in absolute amazement thought "there is no way I am going to make it through the whole workout". I was feeling it. YES WITH 5 KILO DUMBELLS. I continued through with what has now become the best and most educational workout I have EVER had. Seriously this workout has completely changed the way I do weights. Now I have incredible workouts, incredible pumps to the point were it feels like my skin is going to tear! This continued though all the workouts I had with Magic and frankly I am a converted man when it come to his method and theory of training.

The blokes knowledge and dedication to BB'ing is inspiring. ( Dont want to ruin his hard man reputation but he is a good bloke as well).

I urge each one of you to train with Magic, it is money incredibly well spent. I have learn so much that I will continuing my training with the guy each month indefinately!

Oh, and for those of you who are sensible enough to get him to train you be prepared for the pain next day!

I know this sounds like an advertisment of something but it is far from it. Just a satisfied customer.

Magic, thanks from a converted sceptic.

Streak thanks buddy.
I do a 4 day split, I find it works the best for me.

Great stuff Caveman, thanks for sharing your experience with us

MDX

Hahaha,
Mate thanks heaps. I get just as much satisfaction in teaching and seeing the expression on someones face as they are being told something new.
I get plessure out of it more so than training myself i reckon.

Anyway, i have had those that are just so stubborn that they are so focused on "you have to lift ridiculously heavy" that they just won't stick to it for fear that they will be seen lifting a light weight infront of their gym buddys. Mind you, these are the type of guys that usually dont make any gains for years and just love talking about how much they lifted the other day...

Looking forward to the next meet. Its fun...for me anyway hahaha :D