Thread: Testosterone Booster test subjects wanted

Hi Guys,

I have been working on the test booster formula that has been very popular on bulk nutrients for some time, the combination of avena sativa, fenugreek and tribulus which many people buy individually and blend together.

Compared to off the shelf stuff this seems to be very effective and obviously very economical which has lead me to start developing a Bioflex alternative for those who prefer not to tinker and buy an all in one product.
Adding some zinc and a few other goodies to this should help things even further, but before the product is put together it would be good to do some real world testing, rather than relying on symptomatic evidence alone.

If anyone is interested I would like to conduct an experiment with at least 3 test subjects and up to 5 and I will provide all goods free of charge for the duration of the test.
In exchange, test subjects will have to get their testoserone (and other hormone) levels checked before commencing the test and after 6 weeks of supplementation at a cost which they would cover.

This would be most suitable for people who have been considering getting their test levels checked anyway, and/or are concerned with what their levels may be.
The experiment is not for everyone though. If you are on and off with your training, slack and inconsistent with your diet and vary your supp intake depenig on mood, this isn't for you.

While this test will never be scientific in the grand scheme of things, having test subjects who are extremely consistent and limit the variables as much as possible (in terms of diet, training, sleep) would be ideal.
This test would also be much more suitable for life time naturals (as hormone levels can be affected for a long tim after AS use) however any previous As user would be considered as long as they have been clean for 6 months and meet the criteria about consistentcy.

If anyone is interested please reply to this post, we will also look at doing an similar experiment for a fat burner in development.

This should be an interesting experiment.

Obviously, all of your subjects would need the full range of hormone blood tests before and after?

Indeed, i'm looking forward to the experiemt results. I'd gladly help out however i don't think a natty test booster will do me wonders as im still quite young (going onto 20 in a couple months). Goodluck finding suitable candidates.

Hey Ben,

I've been looking around for a good test booster.

Have tried so many. The last one I tried contained Urtica Dioca (Stinging Nettle) which is supposed to work very well with tribulus in freeing up bound testosterone.

Being 34, I am particularly conscious of the fact that my test levels have most likely suffered a steep decline in the last few years. That said, I'm probably in the best condition I've ever been in but diet and smart training is largely responsible for that.

I already take zinc (in addition to ZMA before bed). Also taking 7-keto at present but it does not seem to be doing anything.

If you're still looking for test subjects, happy to lend my body to a worthy cause.

JC

Grunt, you'd fit the bill well. The idea is to maintain all current support use when doing the experiment, with the only variable being the addition of the test product.
Jeff, although at your age this kind of stuff is less necessary, don't for a minute think it would be less effective.

Sounds like a great idea Bioflex.

Haven't been very consistent lately and would hate to take up the spot of a more reflective and deserving individual.

However I'd give it a shot if you'll still need me.

Fantastic. Looking forward to this. PM me when you're ready. I'm due to get bloods done anyway and there's no better way to determine the efficacy of a product/supplement than with a pre-during-post blood test.

Hey Bioflex, I'd be interested in participating in this. I've been using Trib + Avena now for a month & before that just Trib for about 2 months. I was about to re-order & get the Fenugreek as well. Age 34, lifetime natural, training & diet are spot on (never miss a training session or a meal).

Cheers for the interest guys, once all numbers are confirmed I will contact you with much more detail in how the experiment will work.

So far we have Tranq and Grunt, with Jason being a possibility.
If you are interested get in quick as we will be limiting this to 5 participants in total.

I'd be up for it, I've been waiting for a few weeks to get bloods done, that's if there is a spot left?

Guys, thanks a lot for the interest.

We have Take2, Grunt, Tranq, Longrass and possibly Jason and Jeff.
After much research I have decided to wait for one more ingredient before we start this trial as it should compliment the blend perfectly.

I would say then that we should aim to start this trial on the 1st of Feb.

I will Pm everyone privately with more information, however primary blood tests will need to be done between now and then. The only important aspect before starting point blood tests are done is that all test boosters currently used (trib, fenugreek, avena sativa, or anything off the shelf ) should be ceased. The first tests need to reflect a completely 'unsupplemented' state, so ideally any blood tests should be done two weeks after stopping any kind of test enhancers.

The trail will likely go for 8 weeks, with the second round of tests in the last week of trial.

Although i wasnt planning on taking a natty test booster (having bought a container of NOW trib and it lays unopened) but since you say it may have some effect. 1st of Feb sounds perfect as im back from a HK holiday on the 31st. I guess it wouldnt hurt to try, i do plan on getting some blood work done before i leave so that would be ideal for this aswell. I do have a few concerns, ie. acne etc, but yeah, when you are ready, send me the information and i will definately consider this.

Originally Posted by Bioflex

After much research I have decided to wait for one more ingredient before we start this trial as it should compliment the blend perfectly.

any hints?.. i hope its eurycoma longifolia, was hoping that you may stock this in the future

Cant wait for the results and will be watching with much interest

Is it ok to run DIM, R-ALA, Multi V's and liver support for the trial

Absolutely Longrass. The only problem would be adding or subtracting any supps that are likely to have an effect on hormonal levels around trial time. I would like subjects to maintain very similar diets too as reducing the levels of protein and animal fats (amongst other things) can have a negative effect on test levels also.