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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaiman View Post
    If i shipped in some DIM, would they check it even if it was declared..?
    DIM will not be a problem... Just recieved a package with 4 bottles of it from Iherb... No prob...
    Today I will do what you won't so Tomorrow I can do what you can't!

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    Actually a lot of times customs HAVE taken supplements that are legal and allowed in australia because sometimes customs see lines in the label that make them think its something bad when it isnt. For instance i know a lot of the animal products like Animal Pak or Stak2 or M-stak has had problems but for stak2 and M-Stak there was nothing illegal or not allowed, they are or used to be the exact same product that can be purchased here. Animal Pak ...well customs had a case because in it i think there was some ox bile for digestive enzymes and customs didnt like the idea of an animal product i suppose and fair enough although in pill format i doubt any bacteria is going to come out of the ox bile, get out of the packaging, climb out of the metal tin and infest all the ox bile we have in australia.....

    That is what i have problems with when it comes to customs. Not that they stop the illegal products and not even that they are the the most strict customs in the world for supplements (as far as i know, although that is an annoying feature about them), but that they also a lot of times make mistakes and stop products that are safe and get through most times....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf View Post
    Actually a lot of times customs HAVE taken supplements that are legal and allowed in australia because sometimes customs see lines in the label that make them think its something bad when it isnt. For instance i know a lot of the animal products like Animal Pak or Stak2 or M-stak has had problems but for stak2 and M-Stak there was nothing illegal or not allowed, they are or used to be the exact same product that can be purchased here. Animal Pak ...well customs had a case because in it i think there was some ox bile for digestive enzymes and customs didnt like the idea of an animal product i suppose and fair enough although in pill format i doubt any bacteria is going to come out of the ox bile, get out of the packaging, climb out of the metal tin and infest all the ox bile we have in australia.....

    That is what i have problems with when it comes to customs. Not that they stop the illegal products and not even that they are the the most strict customs in the world for supplements (as far as i know, although that is an annoying feature about them), but that they also a lot of times make mistakes and stop products that are safe and get through most times....
    maybe they do this to protect the distributors and supplement stores in australia,if you think about it,if everything was allowed through freely then whats the point of having these stores in australia,

    its about supporting our local suppliers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obi1 View Post
    Ha ha ha h aha nice one J :)

    Pump why do you think we are so strict????
    Because we are strict. There are many supplements available over th4e counter in the US and other parts of the world that we cannot purchase here because they contained banned substances. Yohimbine is one example. Very popular in the use of fat loss, but we cannot get products here that contain it. Pump has been trying to get LG Sciences Postal out here, but as it contains Yohimbine he can't, unless it gets modified.

    At the end of the day these laws are there for our safety. That being said peanut butter and peanut products are easily available in supermarkets and many people can die from ingesting one peanut. I know a few people who have to carry around an epipen just in case.

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    Its not really for our safety.. Id like to see studys that show how they are dangerous, and why america plus other countrys are legal, but australia is not.

    Its really revolving around the australians image. Were the so called free country, with the most amount of rules inplace of what we can and can't do. I say, control the imports but don't ban it because of this and that (for whatever bloody reason that is)

    I say if we can't get ahold of these products, it pushes us to more extreme ways of getting there.

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    I don't agree with it, we should be able to decide for ourselves. We may be careful with things, but not everyone is.

    I'm off to Fiji in May for 2 weeks. It'll be interesting to see if they have any supplements there that we can't get here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajah View Post
    I don't agree with it, we should be able to decide for ourselves. We may be careful with things, but not everyone is.

    I'm off to Fiji in May for 2 weeks. It'll be interesting to see if they have any supplements there that we can't get here.
    coconuts and mangoes,lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by minotaur View Post
    maybe they do this to protect the distributors and supplement stores in australia,if you think about it,if everything was allowed through freely then whats the point of having these stores in australia,

    its about supporting our local suppliers,
    Actually thats illegal and basically wrong. Does that mean other countries should stop importing australian products because people should be supporting local suppliers? If perhaps the local suppliers would keep the prices fair and not try to make a killing out of people.... Why is it cheaper for a lone persone to pay exorbitant shipping costs and to buy retail from overseas than to buy the exact same product from a distributor down here? The distributors should be able to get much cheaper prices for both the actual product and for shipping. I am sure they have other overheads but it cant possibly add up. They just charge a killing because they can get away with it.

    I will never support someone who is trying to screw me over local or imported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minotaur View Post
    coconuts and mangoes,lol
    They had Horley's products in a chemist when I was there last year. Plenty of coconuts.

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    I'm pretty sure its the same deal as why we can't personally import protein powders.

    Animal Pak has colostrum, a milk product... through quarantine, they don't like it being imported without a license with strict paperwork.

    just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf View Post
    Actually thats illegal and basically wrong. Does that mean other countries should stop importing australian products because people should be supporting local suppliers? If perhaps the local suppliers would keep the prices fair and not try to make a killing out of people.... Why is it cheaper for a lone persone to pay exorbitant shipping costs and to buy retail from overseas than to buy the exact same product from a distributor down here? The distributors should be able to get much cheaper prices for both the actual product and for shipping. I am sure they have other overheads but it cant possibly add up. They just charge a killing because they can get away with it.

    I will never support someone who is trying to screw me over local or imported.
    Mate this topic has come up in a thread I had a while ago, I agree with you 100%.
    We shouldnt have to suffer the price increase due to local overheads from aussie sellers,
    At the end of the day, buyers deserve to be able to choose from a competitive marketplace and supplements are just another of the imports we get screwed into the ground on when buying brand name products that
    are manufactured overseas, Its a different ballgame to ten years ago, almost every household has the internet and are alot wiser to the international market and pricing out there, thats why I began my business many years ago, got sick of what ppl claim are there rockbottom prices, their prices that "if they lower them anymore theyll be selling at a loss",
    Since ive been operating I can tell you that these claims are complete bull%$^#. There is a dramatic markup, the only thing dictating the prices are other local competition, remember telestra many years ago? If everything was allowed in then international competition would govern pricing and availability, that would be a completely different story for us as the consumer, we would reap the rewards and the government would suffer a large tax loss of local business. Which is what id claim is a very murky coverup to why ALOT of imports are banned into Aus and supps are the tip of the iceberg.
    Bring on the competition, Local operators need to get used to it, china isnt going anywhere, thats not to even mention india's upcoming stace on manufacturing.
    Operating a business I deal with customs 24/7 and it hits a nerve with me, end of my rant.

    I agree that if we want to put it in our own body and in doing so isnt hurting anyone then no one has the right to tell we what we can and cant do, even if there are neg consequences, thats something the individual
    should be able to weigh up. Theres many things we cant as aussies.

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    I'm curious - if customs seize a product that is being sold locally with the same ingredients, is there anything you can do, or once seized, it's gone?

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    problem is,people that import these things that are on shelves also bring in the imports with certain paper work and ingredient lists etc for that product,

    when you purchase something overseas they dont provide this stuff for you unless you buy direct from the manufacturer or distributor,

    its bullshit i know but thats the way it is,

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    Sorry to bump an old'ish thread, but has anyone brought in customised protein powders from the states / had any issues with it?? By "customised" i mean WPC, dextrose & Malto is custom ratio's.

    Cheers

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    Im quite certain you cant get in whey from outside aus.

    On another note, i was curious if you can order in straight BCAA + EAA + Taurine + Glutamines? I am trying to source some from overseas as I find BN a bit expensive for my liking.

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