Thread: CompleteSuppShop discount.

For those SizeMatters members that use Cell Biology supps or want to try some you can receive a 10% discount on orders over $100 at my online store.

cheers
LR

www.completesuppshop.com.au

coupon code: sizematters

thanks DAVA for allowing me to put uo this thread :)

Hey LR, Welcome to SM!! Good to see you over here mate.

Originally Posted by Shame

Hey LR, Welcome to SM!! Good to see you over here mate.

I'm a bit of a whore I try to get around a bit:)

Good to be here. It has changed alot since I had a look a few years ago.

From experience who thinks Cell Biology is better than ON 100% Whey? And why?

Hey i'm looking for a night time protein so can you tell me about the Sustained Release Forte it says it has WPI WPC and calcium casinate in what ratio.

and how much is postage to sydney for 5kg

or would the coconut milk protein be better as it contains MPI and Micellar Casein

Originally Posted by M1CH43L

Hey i'm looking for a night time protein so can you tell me about the Sustained Release Forte it says it has WPI WPC and calcium casinate in what ratio.

and how much is postage to sydney for 5kg

or would the coconut milk protein be better as it contains MPI and Micellar Casein

M1CH43L, the Sustained Forte is our regular blend of Sustained Release with added calcium casinate giving a digestion time of around a 6-8 hours compared to around 4 hours for the Sustained Release.

Nutritional Information - Per 40g of Sustained Release Forte:

Energy 666kj
Protein 37g (WPI- 16g WPC- 16g CC- 5g)
Carbohydrates 3g
Fat 3g
Sodium 200mg
Potassium 150mg

I'm also interested in knowing how much postage of 5kgs of protein would be to sydney....

Actually while we are discussing Cell Biology supp's.

I was wondering what people thought of their protein powders ( it seems comparable to ON in price - maybe cheaper ).

Also has anyone used there muscle tabs or DHT tabs? If so I'd be interested in knowing what you thought of them and if u don't mind your age aswell, these test boosters don't normally help much with the youngsters but i would be interested in hearing whether it helps at all with us oldies ;)

Originally Posted by BobG

I'm also interested in knowing how much postage of 5kgs of protein would be to sydney....

Postage is $10 Bob. All up including postage and Sizematters discount a 5kg tub of Sustained Release comes to $135.55.

yeah also i don't understand how a mix of WPC + WPI with a little casein would take 8 hours to digest is this proven or just assuming that the casein would make store the WPC+WPI in a paste inside the stomach because from what i'm aware of that's purely hypothetical, sorry to be a sceptical but in the world of supps you have to be

also which would be a better night time protein the WPI+WPC+casein or MPI+casein i would think the MPI+casein but they both say that they last for 8 hours

Thanks

Originally Posted by littlerunt

Postage is $10 Bob. All up including postage and Sizematters discount a 5kg tub of Sustained Release comes to $135.55.

Mate thats a keen price.

LR,
any idea why CB stopped the Micellar Casein? I've still got a fair bit left but i'll run out at some stage....

Originally Posted by M1CH43L

yeah also i don't understand how a mix of WPC + WPI with a little casein would take 8 hours to digest is this proven or just assuming that the casein would make store the WPC+WPI in a paste inside the stomach because from what i'm aware of that's purely hypothetical, sorry to be a sceptical but in the world of supps you have to be

also which would be a better night time protein the WPI+WPC+casein or MPI+casein i would think the MPI+casein but they both say that they last for 8 hours

Thanks

it's not the WPI or WPC that turns to paste, it's the casein.

WPI will be absorbed in around 20mins, WPC takes a bit longer and casein takes 6-8 hours.

Here's a blurb from the ******* website which might help explain the absorbtion difference for you:

Perhaps the most striking difference between whey and caseinates is the rate of digestion and absorption into the body. After consuming whey proteins there is a rapid rise in levels of blood amino acids which returns to baseline in approximately 2 hours. Casein, however, coagulates in the stomach, forming a curd, and is digested far more slowly, leading to a more moderate rise in blood amino acids that is sustained for up to 7 hours.

In terms, of muscle hypertrophy, whey could be considered a 'fast protein' which promotes protein synthesis (ie. it's anabolic) whereas casein is a 'slow protein' which significantly slows protein breakdown (ie. it's anti-catabolic). The bio-active peptides in casein may also have anabolic and anti-catabolic effects.

This is a slow digesting protein that is ideal for maintaining plasma amino acid levels and a positive nitrogen balance during times of fasting (eg. while you're asleep).


In an interesting study by Demling and DeSanti (2000), over-weight untrained men were placed on a diet, given a resistance training program and took supplemental protein either as a hydrolysed casein protein blend or as a whey protein blend. The subjects who supplemented their diet with the hydrolysed casein protein blend lost 3kg more fat and gained 2kg more muscle than those supplementing with the whey protein blend. Unsurprisingly, increase in strength was 31% greater in the casein group.

Thus it appears calcium caseinate may be useful in promoting muscle gain and fat loss while dieting especially in untrained individuals.

why are some website names still being blanked out? SM doesn't have a shop anymore, so what's the rationale for this?

Originally Posted by Poita

it's not the WPI or WPC that turns to paste, it's the casein.

WPI will be absorbed in around 20mins, WPC takes a bit longer and casein takes 6-8 hours.

Here's a blurb from the ******* website which might help explain the absorbtion difference for you:

Perhaps the most striking difference between whey and caseinates is the rate of digestion and absorption into the body. After consuming whey proteins there is a rapid rise in levels of blood amino acids which returns to baseline in approximately 2 hours. Casein, however, coagulates in the stomach, forming a curd, and is digested far more slowly, leading to a more moderate rise in blood amino acids that is sustained for up to 7 hours.

In terms, of muscle hypertrophy, whey could be considered a 'fast protein' which promotes protein synthesis (ie. it's anabolic) whereas casein is a 'slow protein' which significantly slows protein breakdown (ie. it's anti-catabolic). The bio-active peptides in casein may also have anabolic and anti-catabolic effects.

This is a slow digesting protein that is ideal for maintaining plasma amino acid levels and a positive nitrogen balance during times of fasting (eg. while you're asleep).


In an interesting study by Demling and DeSanti (2000), over-weight untrained men were placed on a diet, given a resistance training program and took supplemental protein either as a hydrolysed casein protein blend or as a whey protein blend. The subjects who supplemented their diet with the hydrolysed casein protein blend lost 3kg more fat and gained 2kg more muscle than those supplementing with the whey protein blend. Unsurprisingly, increase in strength was 31% greater in the casein group.

Thus it appears calcium caseinate may be useful in promoting muscle gain and fat loss while dieting especially in untrained individuals.

WOW no shit tell me something i DON'T know :p :p :p :p

no but seriously though who dosen't know that. i know your just trying to help but clearly you just cut and pasted that from myo pure LOL.

what i was asking is have they done a study that proves that a bit of casein will make the WPC or WPi get stuck inside the paste that casein makes in side your stomach and release it over a period of 8 hours, because i've heard rumors of studies doing this with cretien and things like that but i haven't heard of anything been proven.

Because seeing that the WPC+WPI+casein blend it only contains 5g of casein in 40g i can't see how it would be a good nighttime protein if it didn't