Thread: New Test Trial Methyl 1D & Slin

Stats update

Weight 73.5kg - BF 17.2%

Again, had a great week of workouts with more weight being added to almost all exercises.

Went to the coast with the boys for a boys weekend away which destroyed my diet from Friday morning until Sunday night.

I'm very happy with the results so far, might tweak the diet a little this week to add a few hundred calories more (probably through more fats rather than increase carbs) and see how we go.

Tuesday - Back
Pullups at 10*12, 9*12, 8*10, 7*7, 8*8
Seated Rows 11*12, 12*12, 13*10, 14*10
Lat pulldowns 10*12, 11*12, 12*10, 11*10
One arm rows 27.5*12, 30*12, 32.5*10, 35*9
Cable close grip pulldowns 10*12,11*12,11*10,10*10

Friday - Shoulders
Press 20*12,22.5*12,25*12,27.5*11,30*7,30*8
Upright rows 30*18,40*12,40*12,40*10
Reverse machine press 10*12,11*12,12*6,11*7
rear delt 10*12,11*12,12*12,13*10
Shoulder shrugs 80*20,120*18,140*12,160*10

Sunday - Chest
Dumbell Flat Bench Press 25*12. 27.5*12, 30*12, 32.5*11, 35*8,37.5*5
Cable Flys 5*12, 6*12*2,6*12*10
Incline Bench Dumbell Press 27.5*9*2,30*8,32.5*9
Peck Deck 11*12, 12*12, 13*11, 14*10
Overhead tricep cables 11*15, 11*12, 10*12
Dips unassisted 3*9

Height: 182.5 (unchanged)
Weight end of week 1: 93.5 (up 0.7kgs)
Body Fat: ~15% (same as last week)

Up a couple of weights - bench and shoulders.

Bad week - missed a few meals, had a couple of beers, missed a leg session, missed lots of sleep.

Need to reduce calories this week

Tuesday - Back
Pullups at 10*12, 9*12, 8*11, 7*7, 8*9
Seated Rows 11*12, 12*12, 13*10, 14*10
Lat pulldowns 10*12, 11*12, 12*12, 11*12
One arm rows 27.5*12, 30*11, 32.5*9, 35*9
Cable close grip pulldowns 10*12,11*11,12*10,13*8

Wednesday - Legs
Front squat 40*12, 80*12, 100*12, 120*12, 130*12, 130*12
Leg Press 11*12, 13*12, 15*12, 15*12
Ham ext 11*12, 12*12, 13*12, 13*12
Calves 100*12, 120*12, 130*12, 140*12
Leg ext 10*12, 11*12, 12*12, 12*12

Friday - Shoulders
Press 20*12,22.5*12,25*12,27.5*10,30*6,30*5,27.5*8
Upright rows 30*18,40*12,40*12,40*12
Reverse machine press 10*12,11*10,11*7,10*9
rear delt 11*12,12*12,13*10,12*12
Shoulder shrugs 120*15,140*12,160*10,180*10

Sunday - Chest
Dumbell Flat Bench Press 20*15,25*12,30*12, 32.5*10, 35*7,37.5*7
Cable Flys 5*12, 6*12*2,6*12*12
Incline Bench Dumbell Press 27.5*11*2,30*9,32.5*7,32.5*8
Peck Deck 11*12, 13*12, 14*10, 13*12
Dips unassisted 12,11,9
Overhead tricep cables 11*15, 11*12, 10*12

Height: 182.5 (unchanged)
Weight end of week 1: 93.2 (down 0.3kgs)
Body Fat: ~15% (same as last week)

Can't split last week and this week.

130 front squats for reps is good mate

Mark,

Figures are just for relative comparison. The front squat is on a machine - not free weights (the gym doesn't have a squat rack).

Gotcha. Crazy looking machine

Ok, finally at the point of being able to write some comments about this stack.

I've started later with this trial, as I was coming off a long cut and I wanted to make sure the playing field was as level as possible before getting into it.

The problem with trials like this is that generally you only have very subjective ways of "measuring" results; generally there is a short timeframe involved; and making sure that nothing else is intruding on the supps being tested is sometimes difficult.

With regard to the latter points; I don't believe there's been anything to compromise the results, and whilst I would like a longer time to fully assess the supps, I feel there is enough "evidence" to at least make some general comments.

My observations are these:
* Clearly an improvement of strength and gym performance
* Increased vascularity
* The "pump" has always been somewhat difficult for me to achieve in my workouts, although I do have a sensation that I suppose could, broadly speaking, be considered a "pump". What I have felt since using these supps is a more easily defined pump, and one that is much longer lasting. I am still feeling "full", so to speak, for a considerable time after the workout, which is clearly different to pre-supp.
* There have been weight gains, although it's very hard to say how much is water, muscle, blubber, but my weight has improved and the mirror test suggest that it's good weight gain.

I was somewhat cautious about any product that is an "insulin potentiator" as I have a history of insulin resistance. Taking big carb hits after the pills was a little worrying, but so far I've found that it hasn't caused my any issues so far. I have enough pills left to continue with the trial and I will post up my final thoughts then.

In summary:
There seems to be enough evidence to suggest that these supps appear to do a fair bit of what they claim and I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with the remainder.

At this stage I'd rate them 7/10.

Stats update

Weight 74.1kg - BF 16.9%

Good week with most compound lifts getting a bit of weight added to them.

Been very happy with the results over this trail so far. I'll try a month without the SLIN and the Methyl 1D and post my results // weight gain with that - that way we can compare the difference.

Stats update

Weight 74.3kg - BF 17.0%

All compound lift getting more weight again this week - overall a pretty good training week.

So, it's all over red rover... It's been a long time since I've tried any sups other than the faithful protein and creatine powder. Think I am still jaded about the "magical" powers that I thought supps had... until I discovered I just needed to eat more, and more and then eat just a little bit more!

However, the Methyl & Slin has given me some confidence back into supps. I didn't notice any bigger / longer pumps as T2 noted, but definitely strength and mass gains.

Summary
Starting stats:
72.4, 17.8%BF (tanita scales)

Finish
74.3, 17.1%BF (tanita scales)

Diet - Remained unchanged except I added an extra 30 grams of flax oil at week 3.

Most of my weights increased a fair bit during the trail - I'm just going to list a couple of the compounds for comparison.

barbell bench press 2sets 6reps 62.5 kg // finish 70kg
barbell squat 2sets 6reps 90kg // finish 110kg
barbell shoulder press 2sets 6reps 50 kg // finish 57.5kg
chinup 3sets 8reps 5kg // finish 10kg
parallel bar dip 3sets 8reps B/W // finish 10kg

So there were some really good increases over the last 4 weeks. Most of my lifts increased like this over the month, so I'm very happy with the results.

All in all there could be some merit behind this stack. I'm going to continue my bulk through October (although I'm on holiday away for 9days...! say good bye diet!!!!) To see if I can produce similar results from just a good diet and some hard training. Not sure if it was just mental or not, but I do feel that this stack has helped through this month - generally I don't get this type of strength increases, maybe 2.5kg's every second or third week on compound lifts is more usual.

A big thanks to Pump Nutrition for putting on this trail :)

so do you think just taking methyl-1d by itself would see similar results? or would you highly recommend taking the slin as well???
Cheers

I took Methyl 1-D for a month by itself, albeit with other supps, and my strength levels did increase. As a product I found it worked very well by itself.

Just so you know guys the Methyl 1D that was on trial was the old version which is called Methyl 1D EU the newer version has more in it, Ingrediants that is and goes to work alot quicker and is a bit more effective.

Even by itself !

OK, I've finished the Methyl 1D + Slin stack. I ended up with an extra weeks worth of Slin which I finished on it's own. Probably because Slin is only taken PWO where as Methyl 1D is taken daily.

Results:

During the trial period I recorded above average strength increases in all my lifts. The greatest strength gains seemed to occur around weeks 2 & 3. I have also added visible muscle to all the major muscle groups. At the conclusion of the trial my body weight has increased by 2KG. During the trial I didn't record any adverse effects from this stack.

Overall I'm happy with the result & will most likely try the new & improved version of Methyl 1D on it's own at some stage in the future.

Thanks to Pump Nutrition for sponsoring this trial.

How much did you weigh before you started?
Just am curious to see if you are around a similar wieght to me?
I wiegh 73kg
Cheers