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Sorry about the workout formating, looked better on my screen then when it posted - will sort it out next week :)
Happy training!
Sorry about the workout formating, looked better on my screen then when it posted - will sort it out next week :)
Happy training!
Ok, so you're saying that in a week, you've added 1.1kg of lean mass? Unlikely, with respect.Originally Posted by redbak
Tanita scales? Mate, I have incredibly expensive ones and I wouldn't even vaguely rely on them for BF. There are simply too many variables, hydration being the most significant. I weigh myself at the same time, naked, yada yada, and my BF numbers go up and down all the time. Almost worthless imo.
On the basis of your report, a 6 or 8 week cycle of this would yield spectacular results. I'm trying it too, so I want to believe, but 1.1kg in a week? Fanciful, unless most of it is water.
or more precisely (based on your figures)
Weight......BF..........Fat.....Fat gain....Lean......Lean Gain
72.4.........17.80%...12.89...na...........59.51.. ...na
73.5.........17.80%...13.08...0.20.........60.42.. ...0.90
So: fat did change and lean gain was under 1k.
take2 - those are the results, problem with posting up regular results like this is that you do get peaks and troughs, hydration etc etc. But hey, this is what PN wanted us to be doing with the trail - posting results, training programs, diet etc etc.
Even at the end of the cycle, your finishing weight / stats are going to be influenced by what you say above - so is there any point to posting results, if the only ones are those that you see and feel for yourself? Of course there is, for the other ppl and PN that are following this trail. Everyone on here would be of the same mindset of fluid retention etc affecting weight readings and all would question the validity of a tanita scale bf % reading... but everyone needs something as a guide.
I agree, which only reinforces my view that one week results mean fuck all, and to post them at all, is somewhat misleading, not only from the point of view of suspect scales.
I'm aware of what was requested, but I truly don't think there is anything to be gained by posting weekly changes in weight, given there are so many variables. I can go up and down half a kilo a night. It's what's happened at the end of the cycle that is more inportant, imo, and the less subjective observations based on your own summation.
Don't get me wrong: I hope it keeps going like this. I'm just mindful of creating false expecations after a week.
Cheers
I took the Methyl 1-D with I-GH-1, not Slin. I didn't bother posting my daily/weekly log. I did keep a daily log in my PC and posted the best bits. Overall there weren't any bad bits either.
LG Sciences Methyl 1D pSARM - Pump Nutrition
Monday - Back
Pullups at 10*12, 9*12, 9*10, 8*8, 9*8
Seated Rows 11*12, 12*12, 13 *10, 14*8
Lat pulldowns 10*12, 11*12, 11*10, 10*12
One arm rows 27.5*11, 30*10, 32.5*9, 35*8
Cable close grip pulldowns 11*12,12*10,12*8,11*8
Wednesday - Shoulders
Press 20*12,22.5*12,27.5*8,30*5,27.5*7,27.5*7
Upright rows 30*18,40*12,40*12,40*10
Reverse machine press 10*12,11*12,11*10,11*8
rear delt 11*12,12*12,13*10,12*6,11*6
Smith Shoulder raise 80*12,120*12,160*6,120*10,120*10
Overhead tricep cables 10*15, 10*12, 10*12,9*10,8*10
Friday - Legs
Front squat 40*12, 80*12, 110*12, 120*12, 120*12,120*12
Leg Press 11*12, 13*12, 15*12, 15*12, 15*12
Ham ext 11*12, 12*12, 13*12, 12*12
Calves 120*12, 130*12, 140*12, 140*10
Leg ext 11*12, 12*12, 12*10, 12*10
Saturday - Chest
Dumbell Flat Bench Press 22.55*12, 27.5*12, 32.5*12, 35*10, 35*8, 32.5*8
Incline Flys 17.5*12*4
Incline Bench Dumbell Press 25*12, 27.5*10,30*8,30*6
Cable Flys 5*12, 6*10*2, 5*12
Dips unassisted 2 sets*9
Overhead tricep cables 10*17, 9*12
Tricep pushdowns 10*12, 9*12
Light on the Front Squats due to a small back strain previous week.
Big day on the Chest on Saturday - paying for it badly today.
Reminder, taking 4 slin after training and methyl1-D 3 times a day. Must take methyl1-D with food as is can be harsh on the stomach.
Height: 182.5 (unchanged)
Weight end of week 1: 92.0 (unchanged)
Body Fat: ~14% (down 1%)
Did up a couple of weights this week, but paid for it today.
Actaully guys just keep a log and post the bits you think are relevant after each week of training
Week 2:
I'm starting too think that there might be something too this stack. This week I've added 10kg's to my squat, 10kg's to BB shrugs, 5kg's to incline bench & either 5 or 10kg to the various hammer strength machines I use. So it's obvious that I'm feeling stronger on this stack. Continued to get good pumps while working out. I can see muscle growth in my back, shoulders & legs. Hoped on the scales after my workout today & my weight has increased 1.6kg since I started the stack. Now before T2 cuts me down I should say that scale weights are subject too fluctuation. And as we all know are not the most reliable indication of lean muscle gains. But it's nice to see them heading in the right direction.
As a result of this stack I think I'm a convert to taking carbs PWO. I've been taking 50g of dextrose/maltodextrin (coopers brew enhancer #1) + 50g WPI 30mins after taking Slin.
I'm looking forward to week 3
Jesus mate, I wasn't cutting you down ffs, simply making an observation. I'm doing this trial too remember.
But you're right, scale weights only indicate an increase in overall weight, no more no less, but I do sincerely hope that it's real mass.
I can agree with the apparent strength increases, although I'm coming at it from a very different perspective.
Good luck.
I was just indulging in a bit of T2 bashing. It seems to be a popular sport around here the last few days. Thought I'd give it a try.
mmm... get on the queue buddy :) :)
Monday - Back
Pullups at 10*12, 9*12, 8*10, 9*12
Seated Rows 11*12, 12*12, 13*10, 12*10
Cable close grip pulldowns 11*12,12*10,12*10,11*12
One arm rows 27.5*12, 30*10, 32.5*9, 32.5*9
Lat pulldowns 10*12, 11*12, 11*10, 10*12
Concentration curls drop set 10, 9, 8, 7, 6
Wednesday - Shoulders
Press 20*12,22.5*12,25*12,27.5*11,30(fail),30*9,30(fail) *2,27.5*11
Upright rows 30*18,40*12,40*12,40*10
Reverse machine press 10*12,11*12,12*10,12*6
rear delt 10*12,11*12,12*12,13*8
Shoulder shrugs 120*12,140*12,160*10,180*10,200*8
Lat raises 7*12, 8*12, 9*12, 10*10
Thursday - Legs
Front squat 40*12, 80*12, 100*12, 120*12, 130*12
Leg Press 11*12, 13*12, 15*12, 15*12, 15*12
Ham ext 11*12, 12*12, 13*12, 13*12, 13*12
Calves 100*12, 120*12, 120*12, 130*12
Leg ext 11*12, 12*12, 12*12, 12*12
Sunday - Chest
Dumbell Flat Bench Press 22.5*12, 25*12. 27.5*12, 30*8, 32.5*8, 35*9
Cable Flys 5*12, 6*12*3
Incline Bench Dumbell Press 25*12, 27.5*12,30*8,30*8
Peck Deck 12*12, 13*12, 13*11, 13*10
Overhead tricep cables 10*18, 10*12, 10*10*2
Big day on the Chest previous Saturday - and paid for it on back day.
Height: 182.5 (unchanged)
Weight end of week 1: 92.8 (up 0.8kgs)
Body Fat: ~15% (up 1%)
Up a few weights, down on others. No visual changes.
Stats update
Weight 73.9kg - BF 17.8%
Good strength through this weeks workout, diet was pretty good. Had an epic weekend which left me eating next to nothing since Thursday night.
Feeling pretty good with results so far.
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