Thread: New Test Trial Methyl 1D & Slin

Best value for money IMO is 'Coopers Brew Enhancer 1' from any supermarket, it's a dextrose/maltodextrin mix and should be around the $6 for 1Kg mark...
If you're after Waxy Maise Starch as your carb source I'm fairly certain that the Bioflex stuff will be pretty hard to beat price wise...

{Actually this product was just released in Australia}

LG Sciences have also a product called PERFECT CARB which has


Ingredients:
Waxy Maize Starch, Maltodextrin, Laboratory Grade Dextrose, Bicarbonate Of Soda.


It's unflavoured which means you can mix it with anything I am also offering 10% off on this product which does retail for about 41.95

Voucher is aus10%

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PUMP - Personal Training

Originally Posted by Pump Nutrition

{Actually this product was just released in Australia}

LG Sciences have also a product called PERFECT CARB which has


Ingredients:
Waxy Maize Starch, Maltodextrin, Laboratory Grade Dextrose, Bicarbonate Of Soda.


It's unflavoured which means you can mix it with anything I am also offering 10% off on this product which does retail for about 41.95

Voucher is aus10%

Click here for more details

PUMP - Personal Training

Thanks for the info, I'll have a look for the Coopers Brew Enhancer in woolies. I don't want to spend a lot & besides simple sugars are pretty much all the same right? I think I'm getting enough carbs in my diet as is.

What type of info are you looking for in this trial?

What i am looking for is for you guys to put on a bit of size during the trial i have supplied about 28 days worth witch is a full cycle, also some strength gains aswell.

So train hard

OK, so I'll keep track of my strength gains over the next month.

Another question; do you want us taking these supps every day or only on training days?

Everyday except for Slin only on training days

Pump,

Thanks, I got the stuff yesterday. I will start taking it on Monday. Do you want comments in this thread or do you mind if I start another just for my trial?

Cheers.

Try and keep it in this thread if you can

Any feedback guys ?

Hey P.N - just got the stock on Friday, been away on business (which killed training) so all ready for tomorrow. I'll post up weekly my weight, diet and gym weights. Pumped up about this, looking to put in a big effort over the next 4 weeks.

I've been taking the stack as directed now for 1 week. Firstly I should say that I haven't noticed any negative side effects taking this stack. As far as my workouts are concerned it's difficult to tell what effects the stack may be having at this early stage. I've been training hard & consistently. Strength levels have gone up on several lifts this week. I have noticed that my shoulders are looking slightly fuller, I have also noticed slightly better pumps while training. I've felt greater motivation this week. Perhaps because I want the supp's too work. It's hard to say whether these initial results are due to the stack or just because I'm putting a little bit more effort into my workouts & eating a few more calories then usual.

I'll report back after week 2.

My diet looks like this on training days:

Meal Kjs Protein Carbs Fat
Oats 1945.0 48.8 53.5 5.7
Chicken + Vegs 1701.5 51.4 38.7 3.8
Chicken + Vegs 1701.5 51.4 38.7 3.8
After Workout Pro 1991.3 48.1 67.0 1.1
Night Protien 929.4 38.9 14.1 0.9
Peanuts - Snack 857.2 8.3 7.5 17.4
Apple 325.5 0.5 20.7 0.3
Dinner 3000.0 30.0 60.0 10.0
Total 12451.4 277.4 300.3 43.0

On non training days I remove the After Workout Protein and add fruit+Yoghurt

Fruit + Yoghurt 674.0 8.2 30.0 0.3
Total 11134.0 237.4 263.2 42.2

Sunday is cheat day - eat and drink whatever, but I tend to keep up the diet and only cheat one meal.

Supps daily
Fish Oil 9 gr (3gr, 3 times a day)
Trib 2.7gr saporins (.9gr, 3 times a day)
Super Multi Vit in the morning
Creatine 4gr on non-training days - 10mg on training spilt 5 before/5 after
Biocharge 15gr before workouts
Sip 10gr BCAAs during workout
After workout protien has 50gr dextrose

From Today I started taking Methyl 1D, 3 times a day
On workout days, after workout, I am taking 4 Slin tabs then 20min later after workout protien drink

Diet won't change for duration of trial.

This is my weekly workout from last week as a reference:

Monday - Back
Pullups at 10*12, 9*12, 9*10, 8*8, 9*8
Seated Rows 10*12, 11*10, 12*9, 13 *8, 12*8
Lat pulldowns 9*12, 10*12, 11*10, 10*10
One arm rows 27.5*9, 30*9, 32.5*8*2
Cable close grip pulldowns 10*12,11*10,11*8,10*10

Wednesday - Shoulders
Press 25*12,25*10,25*8,25*8,25*6
Upright rows 30*18,40*12,40*11,40*10,40*8
Reverse machine press 10*12,11*10,12*8,11*10
rear delt 10*12,11*12,12*10,11*12
Shoulder raise 120*15,140*12,160*11,180*8
Overhead tricep cables 10*15, 11*10, 10*10,9*10

Thursday - Legs
Front squat 40*12, 80*12, 120*12, 130*12, 140*9
Leg Press 8*12, 12*12, 13*12, 14*12, 15*12
Ham ext 11*12, 13*12, 12*10, 11*12
Calves 120*12, 130*12, 140*12, 140*12
Leg ext 11*12, 12*12, 12*10, 12*10

Saturday - Chest
Bench Press Machine 60*12, 70*12, 80*10, 90*8, 100*6, 90*8, 90*8
Incline Flys 17.5*12*4
Incline Bench Dumbell Press 25*12, 27.5*10,8,8
Cable Flys 5*12, 6*9*2, 5*12
Dips unassisted 3sets*9
Overhead tricep cables 9*12

Height: 182.5
Weight: 92.0kgs
Fat: ~ 15% fat

First week completed - posting up the progress.

Starting stats:
172cm, 72.4, 17.8%BF (tanita scales)

Diet:
Every day is the same - the meat source might change (ie, from beef to chicken) but the weight of the food is constant. I cook all my meats in good olive oil and I also add 15grams flax oil over the rice.

Getup (4:45am) Pre workout - WPI & Water
GYM - Finish and take 4 x Slin
Post workout (20 mins after gym finish) - WPI & 60grams dex/malto dex in water

Wait 45mins then Breaky :)
100grams Oats
500ml Full Cream Milk
30grams WPC
1 x Banana
1 x teaspoon Cinnamon
1 x teaspoon Nutmeg
30 grams natty nutty butter... mmmm... natty nutty butter... omg *drool* ;)
1 x teaspoon of honey
… all in blender with some ice.
1 x Methyl 1D

200 grams rice, 400grams Meat - Used for mid morning and lunch. 1x Methyl 1D
Banana, Apple & Protein Shake - Used for mid afternoon meal.

200+ Grams meat and vege / salad - used for dinner - 1x Methyl 1D

WPC Shake (30gram serve) Pre bed.

The PCF per day is ~ 270protein, 330 carbs, 65 fat

The only days that this diet is different is Saturday - No post workout or breakfast smoothie, instead breaky is a big bacon and egg breakfast (after a 40klm cycle). Sunday is my cheat day - a cheat day for me is still eating clean, just not as many carbs.

Training: Here's the stats for this week.
31/08/2009
Date Exercise Set Weight Reps Notes
parallel bar dip 1 0 lb 8
2 0 lb 8
3 0 lb 8
dumbbell incline bench press 1 40 kg 6 barbell bench
2 40 kg 6 barbell bench
rear lateral raise 1 4 kg 12
2 4 kg 12
barbell bench press 1 62.5 kg 6
2 62.5 kg 5
dumbbell lateral raise 1 9 kg 12
2 9 kg 12

1/09/2009
dead lift 1 80 kg 6
2 80 kg 6
machine lateral pull-down 1 6 kg 12
2 6 kg 12
barbell squat 1 90 kg 6
2 90 kg 6
cable biceps curl 1 5 lb 21
cable seated low row 1 5 kg 12
2 5 kg 12

3/09/2009
barbell shoulder press 1 50 kg 6
2 50 kg 5
cable crossover 1 3 kg 12
2 3 kg 10
machine chest flye 1 6 kg 12
2 6 kg 12
shrug 1 65 kg 12 dumbells
2 65 kg 12 dumbells
bar upright row 1 45 kg 6
2 45 kg 6

4/09/2009
chinup 1 5 kg 8
2 5 kg 8
3 5 kg 8
barbell bent-over row 1 30 kg 8
2 30 kg 8
cable triceps pushdown 1 5.1 kg 12
2 5.1 kg 10
calf raise 1 45 kg 30
2 45 kg 30

Training notes - Felt fairly strong through out the workouts this week. Was a little disapointed with my bent over rows, could of done more but was stuffed from the chins.

Week Finish Stats
172cm, 73.5, 17.8%BF (tanita scales) - Gain 1.1kg - Fat unchanged

Just a quick note on the body weight & fat % - I weight myself at roughly the same time on each monday morning, wearing the same thing to try and get the most accurate read. I know that the tanita scales don't properly give the fat % but if it's wrong it'll be wrong consistently and will still give a good enough guide. I've also got some skin fold callipers that I'll start using as well.

So, that's it - all in all a good week. Had a great training session this morning after feeling flat as a tac yesterday (too much sports on the weekend killed me!). Will post back results again next Monday.