Thread: Metabolic Typing and Eating Out

Inspired by a few of the recent threads and conversations this week I wrote an article this morning about Metabolic Typing and eating/dining out.

The article can be found here:

http://damianbrown.com/textpattern/index.php?id=17

This is a common dilemma I get with my clients and the fact that 55% of meals are consumed away from the home and rising I would be interested in hearing from other members (not just MT) about their experiences. This is something we are going to need to get really good at!

A few q's to consider.

Do you sabotage yourself when you are out with friends, at work or away on vacation?

Do you eat certain foods when you are out even though you know the bloat you or make you feel awful?

Do you let others influence the way you eat?

Are you 100% committed to your goals or transformation or do you use the above examples as an excuse?

How great is your desire to change?

I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Your article looks great too btw.

You may also get the ‘she’s on another diet’ or ‘he’s a health freak'

. What about 'shes turned into a health freak' . Im ok with that though cause I actually feel good.

I don't really go out but i do have to deal with work and their morning teas. Not to mention a few kid activities.

Friday was the kids sports day. There was preordered subway for everyone. I had my home made chicken and vegies (cold). The little shop selling pies and sausage rolls etc wasn't a problem for me. More the kids nagging for crap.

Work lunch for some training I did last week. The lunch and morning tea was provided. Muffins, danishes, Cheese, sandwiches (really nice ones) and baguettes. I mostly stripped the sandwiches of the meat and salad and secretly hid the bread/rolls in the bin like a criminal. I did eat the equivalent of one slice of bread. I have no idea if it was the bread but i struggled to stay awake for a good hour after lunch.

Wednesday nights is soccer training for the boys. Which means there from 4.30 til about 8.30. That night is always a challenge.

ok my answers to your questions are post December. Pre December it was free for all pretty much.

1. I don't think i sabotage myself anymore. I do have concessions which would be coffee mostly. If im out with the kids and they get whatever, i have coffee. Same if im with work mates. Thats my compromise/treat.

2. I Generally don't eat foods that have a bad affect on me anymore however see what i said about a slice of bread. Still wondering if one slice would do it or if it was a bit pschological.

3. No I don't let others influence how I eat other than what i read when in relation to my own nutrition. Im proud to say Ive got a workmate who has reevaluated her diet and exercise and has now lost a fair chunk of weight.

4. Im pretty committed. Not perfect but im happy with my level of commitment.

5. My desire to change is pretty great at the moment. It had better stay that way

I haven't had my MT done.

Originally Posted by Belmont

A few q's to consider.

Do you sabotage yourself when you are out with friends, at work or away on vacation?

Do you eat certain foods when you are out even though you know the bloat you or make you feel awful?

Do you let others influence the way you eat?

Are you 100% committed to your goals or transformation or do you use the above examples as an excuse?

How great is your desire to change?

I'd love to hear your thoughts.

i used to be influenced by other on foods, now im commited to my diet!! my goals are easy to reach so im going to get there.

100% commited to stay focused, even when someone is eating the foods i used to love right infront of me.

diets in the past i have failed due to being disorganised and lack preperation.

BUT NOT THIS TIME!!!

Originally Posted by RIX

i used to be influenced by other on foods, now im commited to my diet!! my goals are easy to reach so im going to get there.

100% commited to stay focused, even when someone is eating the foods i used to love right infront of me.

diets in the past i have failed due to being disorganised and lack preperation.

BUT NOT THIS TIME!!!

This would be my thoughts of most forum members - focus, dedication and not afraid of hard work and in turn reap the rewards of their goals.

The one thing I am interested in is the diets I see that are day in day out made up of oats, brown rice, chicken, tuna, broccoli and protein powder!

/puts hands up to that.

I start with oats and have cottage cheese/tuna through the day. Or chicken and vegies if im organised.
Meat of some kind at night with some vegies or salad. OR eggs with some cheese.

If its not simple I fall off track.

Originally Posted by Rusha

If its not simple I fall off track.

Thats a good way to look at it. The biggest pitfalls I find with clients is that they eat the same thing over and over until they are sick of it and fall off the wagon. They then fall back into old habits or experience some of the points I raised in the blog post and their cheat meals become more regular.

I work off a 4 day rotation so things are always changing :-)

Pretty much why my cheat meals are few and far. Too risky :).

I change things just slightly. Mashing roast sweet potato in with tuna and cottage cheese was a huge winner for me. Tragic aren't I.

Originally Posted by Belmont

This would be my thoughts of most forum members - focus, dedication and not afraid of hard work and in turn reap the rewards of their goals.

The one thing I am interested in is the diets I see that are day in day out made up of oats, brown rice, chicken, tuna, broccoli and protein powder!

RED: i fall into this "norm" but im open for suggestions

Originally Posted by Belmont

Thats a good way to look at it. The biggest pitfalls I find with clients is that they eat the same thing over and over until they are sick of it and fall off the wagon. They then fall back into old habits or experience some of the points I raised in the blog post and their cheat meals become more regular.

I work off a 4 day rotation so things are always changing :-)

i am theoreticlly one of your clients hehe.. (refering to"eating same old same old!)

Originally Posted by Belmont

This would be my thoughts of most forum members - focus, dedication and not afraid of hard work and in turn reap the rewards of their goals.

The one thing I am interested in is the diets I see that are day in day out made up of oats, brown rice, chicken, tuna, broccoli and protein powder!

If I wasn't training...though there hasn't been a year in the last 20 odd that i haven't been doing something...i would still eat reasonably well...doesn't mean i dont have blowouts occassionally.. life's too short not to enjoy chocolate, cake , ice cream, beer, cheese, beer, beer, beer.....[hang on there i go again] then i get back on track .....doing what i do for work, it's important to me that i practice what i preach

but besides all of the above... i love feeling fit and healthy...this is the main reason i eat well most of the time! and also lets me get away with a few nice coooldddd beers when the need arises

cheers
mac

Mac i have to tell you. Just go and have a beer You've got me wanting one and i haven't had or wanted a drink since NYE.

Originally Posted by RIX

RED: i fall into this "norm" but im open for suggestions

i am theoreticlly one of your clients hehe.. (refering to"eating same old same old!)

There are so many good foods out there, it seems a shame not to experience them.

Let's take a Fast Oxidizer for example as they would be the most common on a forum such as this.

Buckwheat, triticale and amaranth would be a much better choice over oats and in particular amaranth as it is very similar but a much higher protein grain. Sprouted buckwheat would be my favourite choice as it is living food and also does not contain gluten.

Vegetables - carrot, corn, peas, beans, carrots, avocado, aspragus, cauliflower, mushrooms, avocado will all push a protein type in the right direction over brown rice, potato, pumpkin and other starches.

Meats - Chicken thigh, salmon steaks, beef, lamb are all superior choices to tinned tuna or chicken breast.

Fruits - green apples, pears, green tipped banana's and coconuts.

This is just a small part of how MT help anyone who eats a high protein diet regardless of MT or not.

It's so important to remember to eat with your body and not against it. There is no point imprisoning yourself as the likely result is rebellion. Whether you are bulking or cutting you should be eating with your body.

Another example is fat is the key ingredient for a Fast Oxidizer and consuming protein without adequate/correct fats at a really basic level effects you bodies Vitamin A stores which are such an important part of keeping a Fast Oxidizer balanced (some might remember all that cod liver oil they has as a kid). This is good stuff for a FO :-)

Belmont (Damian). Thanks so much for taking the time to post and share your knowledge with us. I always ALWAYS end up learning new information after reading your posts! (I check out your website too)

You say Fast Oxidizer's would be common on a forum like this. Why would that be so? What 'characteristics' would a Fast Oxidizer exhibit?

I really really want to get my MT done but im hesitant because im not entirely sure what I should be looking for in terms of how I feel to address the questions that the MT test will present. And im in danger of bumbling through the test with non-specific answers and not get an optimum result. Does that make sense?

Originally Posted by cmjk

Belmont (Damian). Thanks so much for taking the time to post and share your knowledge with us. I always ALWAYS end up learning new information after reading your posts! (I check out your website too)

Thank you for you kind words, it's something I enjoy doing and I am glad you get something out of it also.

Originally Posted by cmjk

You say Fast Oxidizer's would be common on a forum like this. Why would that be so? What 'characteristics' would a Fast Oxidizer exhibit?

Fast Oxidizers (FO's) tend to respond well to anaerobic exercise (resistance training) as it helps to balance their Autonomic Nervous System. They also respond well to corrective stretching and programs such as yoga (static). Meditation is very beneficial however slowing down can be difficult, so I get good results with mediations with movement. When I train or design and exercise program for a client I take into account their MT as well the total physiological load on their system and train them accordingly.

A FO's is usually more proactive and in the extreme is a 'need it now' person, changing lanes constantly on their way to work.

From my own case studies I find that resistance training that is anaerobic with a lactate challenge e.g. circuits with whole body movements e.g. clean and press, kettlebells, swissball works very well for Fast Oxidizers. (Here I am talking about general strength and conditioning not competitive body building). These programs also need to be periodised as FO's respond very quickly so mixing it up is important e.g. every 4, 6 or 8 weeks depending on their adaptation.

On the other hand a carb type responds well to aerobic conditioning. There is much research to suggest that a diet low in fat, protein has an effect on sex drive - it is interesting to note that vegetarian diets are also the diets of monks. These food choices would balance them out with the life they have chosen to live.

Not all SM members are FO's in fact a few I have worked with are Mixed/Balanced Types. It is interesting to note that they participated in triathlons and their gym work consisted of higher rep ranges as they felt that is what their bodies responded best to.

Originally Posted by cmjk

I really really want to get my MT done but im hesitant because im not entirely sure what I should be looking for in terms of how I feel to address the questions that the MT test will present. And im in danger of bumbling through the test with non-specific answers and not get an optimum result. Does that make sense?

There are no right or wrong answers, you just answer as you are now (your functional type). I'm sure others on here that have done their MT can vouch that it is an easy analysis to complete.

Once you have your MT Profile you can work to fine tune you diet for one the increases your energy, lean muscle mass, digestion or whatever your goals may be.