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    Why we think Metabolic Typing is a big deal!!

    You may have seen that we have posted an article about metabolic typing on the home page, and opened up a separate forum.

    This is because we believe Metabolic Typing holds the promise of taking amateur health, fitness and bodybuilding to the next phase. For the first time ever, a diet and nutritinal system has been developed to take individual preferences into account, rather than making high-level and meaningless statements like "eat more sweet potato" or "increase intake of fatty acids" etc. Metabolic typing analyses the individual factors within everyone to determine the most suitable food mix and choice. The result from a metabolic typing exercise is very detailed, outlining exactly what you can and cannot eat. It takes all of the guess work our.

    I am using it right now on a couple of men and women that have struggled intensively on "normal" diets to lose weight, and within 2 weeks all of them have lost at least 1 kg. Very promising, and more importantly, they are not hungry! This is one of the key features of the Metabolic Type approach to dieting; it works WITH your metabolic processes as opposed to against them.

    Since my last comp I have eaten according to my Metabolic Type, and have still kept under 10% bodyfat, normally I would have been significantly higher than this.

    I will shortly write another post about the "chemistry" that makes it work :D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesper
    Since my last comp I have eaten according to my Metabolic Type, and have still kept under 10% bodyfat, normally I would have been significantly higher than this.
    Have you been gaining during this time Jesper?

    Cheers...

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    Yes I have gained around 1-2kg muscle, which I actually tried to prevent ;).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesper
    Yes I have gained around 1-2kg muscle, which I actually tried to prevent ;).
    In some ways Jepser you and I are very different people :D

    Cheers...

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    LOL, I cannot afford (yet another) suit replacement :D. But seriously, I am quite happy with my current size.

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    This sounds very interesting Jesper and kudos to your muscle gain and 10%bf consistancy, I'd love to have 10% :p

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    I have just read the introduction to Metabolic typing.. very interesting ! especially for me as i have low t3 or hoshimotos. when will the next instalment regarding bodybuilding come out or is it on this site somewhere?...:o

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    sounds good but!

    Although :)

    A young north Canadian lass travels to the Rockies and settles down with a young man
    They have a son who in turn decides to settle in china, this time 4 children are born and the go to the 4 corners of the earth.

    That's a big mix of types

    Or a guy decides he's in to hunting now he knows that he wants a FAST dog with lots of BITE
    That has a good Nose.

    He gets a Greyhound and a Bullterrier as the first cross
    Out of this one Fast dog with no guts,short legged psycho and something fast and hard (if he's lucky)

    Second Cross he throws a hound dog in

    He now has ones that have thrown to the grand parents, father and mother

    It will be interesting to read more about it.

    Although as most would know if you get an indigenous Australian living on typical western diet
    they tend to have allot of diabetes problems so I have no problem with the theory just applying it correctly.

    Jayson


    Probably should of read this first :-)

    http://www.bloodph.com/
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    This is not about blood type. Well, strictly speaking, complicating it a bit, the blood type is one of the 9 homeostatic controls that regulate metabolism and determine how we utilise energy, but it is quite far down the list in terms of importance.

    Jayson, it is not a question of understanding all the combinations you (correctly) point out, it is about understanding the dominance (in particular of the two most important controls).

    At the end there is one litmus test I apply to everything, regardless of academic discussions or research. And that is; DOES IT WORK OR NOT? Rossana and I have been in the dieting industry (as picture of health, size matters and a few other ventures) for 8 years now, and this is the ONLY method I can put my hand on my heart and say IT WORKs! And it works because it is not one size fits all.

    And think about it for a second.... we all know that not every diet works for everyone. Why not? Because we are different. Will there be a diet for everyone? Well it would be naive to think that there are people that cannot lose fat at all (in fact impossible because in the end it is all about energy in/energy out).

    Metabolic typing, in the final analysis, is simply about understanding an individual, and formulating a diet SPECIFIC to this individual. So Metabolic Typing IS NOT a diet itself, it is a method for constructing a diet. Personally my diet is close to an Atkins diet. Other people work better on a "Zen" type of diet. Having said this, Metabolic Typing goes very deep, even identifying individual meats, vegies etc. that work best based on your homeostatic dominance.

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    To further expand on this and to give a flavour of the detailed info metabolic typing give, consider the following:

    Broccoli: this is considered good bodybuilding food as it is filling, provides fibre, contains no carbs, and is low in sodium. Metabolic typing takes this to a further level and analyses broccoli's acidic and alkaline effects. A oxidative dominant person (this is a protein type, in this instance myself) has an alkaline metabolic basis. For me, broccoli has an alkaline effect, meaning that my alkaline base is re-enforced. As a homeostatic environment should always be targeted, broccoli FURTHER DESTABILISES my balance! In short, I should not eat broccoli! If you do, I get more hungry, and I further restricts my body to burn fat (more about this chemistry later on).

    But a sympathetic dominant (eg. what is called a carbohydrate type) are acidic, so broccoli would be good for them as it moves towards homeostatis!

    EVERY FOOD has this effect on you, carbs, vegies, meats etc. By understanding EXACTLY what you can eat, you can make big changes to how you feel, your hunger and how efficiently you burn fat.

    For anyone who buys the book I have recommended will notice that it divides people into protein, carbohydrate and mixed types, based on the autonomous nervous sytem preference. This is a good beginning, but the real benefits come from the next phase, where the types are also analysed for their oxidative characteristics. In this way, the concept from, for example, a protein type, is further expanded into a para-sympathetic dominant or an oxidative dominant. They are both protein types, but the dietary characteristics between these two sub-types are quite different.

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    Jesper,

    Do you know anything about the diet company out there called SureSlim, they supposedly do a form of metabolic typing I think. Its just one blood test. Is that sufficent to get hold of all the info that would be required by them.

    I successfully lost a huge amount of weight with them, and was just curious if you'd consider what they did "metabolic typing" or just more commercial diet mumo jumbo.

    Cheers

    Ross.

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    The amount of information going into a Metabolic Typing (MT) classification is vast, well beyond blood type and other information that can be read from blood. Getting a blood test and hair sample test is optional in Metabolic Typing. They are optional because they are less important, as a bood test only shows a CURRENT state. What MT needs is to understand the full picture. You may be an oxidative type dominant, but because of a holiday away for example, and a very different diet, a blood test may indicative this rather than the "true" picture.

    There is nothing that is similar between them. Sureslim is a fairly one dimensional with little difference between diets. I know that as some people we work with have done the Sureslim program and got similar diets, although they have been of different metabolic type.

    For this reason, like for all other diets, they work for some people, but not for others. One thing that concerns me about Sureslim is the amount of calories consumed, and how hard it is to maintain the weight loss once the diet stops.

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