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And conveniently BPA is in almost every babies bottle. It's now banned in canada yet we still use this dangerous carcenogen...Originally Posted by BODY DOC
And conveniently BPA is in almost every babies bottle. It's now banned in canada yet we still use this dangerous carcenogen...
Can you still get glass babies bottles Raaqi? I breast fed my lot but it would still be in the cups and bowls the little ones have.
Yep. Even sippy cups are made out of BPA. Basically any cup you buy for kids.
We ordered non BPA stuff from O/S and found one bottle here free of BPA.
There has been a trend over the years showing that male sperm count is on the decline. Is it any wonder when we are surrounded by xenoestrogens from a young age...proportional to that has been a rise in obesity and cancer... Coincidence? I think not.
Winners make it happen...losers let it happen.
Qui audet adipiscitur.
I saw a documentary on this the majority of the damage i believe was done was during pregnancy or very early on. There was also a strong link between fertility and the gap between the anus and penis in infants the smaller the gap the less fertile the male would be when test later in life (which was all linked back to the levels of this plastic). The drop in fertility in males in this doco was pretty scary.
Determination of Bioavailable Testosterone [Non Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG)-Bound Testosterone] in a Population of Healthy French Men: Influence of Androstenediol on Testosterone Binding to SHBG -- Giton et al. 53 (12): 2160 -- Clinical Chemi
Determination of Bioavailable Testosterone [Non Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG)-Bound Testosterone] in a Population of Healthy French Men: Influence of Androstenediol on Testosterone Binding to SHBG -- Giton et al. 53 (12): 2160 -- Clinical Chemi
Does this suggest 17 is normal test for males < 40?
Hard to work out without a context for the table.
What worries me is that the value for the 5th percentile is roughly the same TT for all groups. How can that be? For that matter, there's not much of a range change for most of the percentiles, in all the groups?
The study says major difference is in free testosterone, not total test. I have read this before - binding factors rise with age
I have not seen a bigger sample in a study.
They excluded 32 people with extreme scores so its one percent ranges are a bit misleading.
So 17 is about avg then for those under 40.
I'm trying to research the reference "avg" to argue to my doctor as to appropriate when I get retested and see him again.
My younger bro is 33 - i'm doubting he will push me up that high
from my converstations with my endocrinologist there is no average. No meaningful one anyway. if my test levels hit 15 i'm over the moon.
when i was on HRT they hit around 14, and that was after 6 mths of testosterone therapy. I felt great
reading the full study now....
and yes, available test is always the issue; hence the issue of SHBG et al.
Well of course there is statistical average - that is just mathematically implied.
I assume you mean that for each individual there is no "perfect" amount (average) for them???
Please elaborate.
my endo encouraged me NOT to be fixated on the numbers and prefered me to judge my wellbeing based on how I FELT.
He was right. A person could feel terrible at 20 while i feel great at 12/13
yes, of course there can be a average: take any set of numbers and you can generate an average.
The issue is that there are many interconnecting hormonal and other factors that influence free test and how that free test is used. That's my main problem with lab ranges. A score of 17 may mean 3/5ths of fuck all to one man, and everything to another. Normal, may not be normal at all. Average, can just be a number.
My trial testosterone ran out on Monday, and I don't see the specialist until next Wednedsay when he will presumably write me a script.
I must say going from testogel to nothing this week has been an unpleasant experience. It's akin to going through menopause in 2-3 days..
Energy, concentration have severely dived; my urinary problem has returned with a vengence (I'm back pissing every hour at least). My headaches are amongst the worse they have ever been, coupled with the nocturia, has meant 2-3 hours sleep for the last few nights. And for whatever I have also now developed the cold for the first time in at least a year.
Take 2: do you have any advice for my consultation next weds?
I am assuming he will give me a script, but should I push for
(1) a higher dosage - given my problems were about 70% cured from the single dose of testogel
(2) any anti-estrogen drug (not that I noticed any estrogenic sides in the short period)
(3) any further tests - cortisol etc?
if it was me?
Test for estrogen, DHEA, Cortisol (preferably 24hr saliva sample), Progesterone, Prolactin.
I assume he'll test for Test and SHBG again?
Not sure of the amount of test in testogel, but the 5% cream I use is brilliant. There is a 7% cream available from the same pharmacy.
Very hard to get anti-estrogens prescribed. Nolva is an option, but generally on a private script, which is expensive and brings with it its own particular set of problems with long-term use. Look at herbal estrogen support such as DIM, and/or IC3.
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