Thread: Low testosterone

Being on HRT for the rest of your life dose that mean you now become infertile?? like when your on gear you become infertile so if your on HRT 24/7 that would mean forget about kids??

Originally Posted by M1CH43L

Being on HRT for the rest of your life dose that mean you now become infertile?? like when your on gear you become infertile so if your on HRT 24/7 that would mean forget about kids??

......... No

Well I don't have liver overload syndrome - so that is rule out.

Where's the best place to apply the testogel, and should I be applying just in one region (so there is lots of gel per region) or over many reasons (so there is a little gel over chest, abs, arms, shoulders etc)

My doctor said just chest but from what I have read most people don't apply on chest, so I had been doing arms, abs, shoulders, but was wondering whether I should just focus on one region

On your scrotum. No bull.

Originally Posted by raaqi

On your scrotum. No bull.

Why does it advise against this?

It makes sense to me but it says it may cause skin irritation.

Is there any other negative?

Only because of the Alcohol content imo (which doesnt mean much).

I just read this coincidentally... wow!

The Testosterone Deficiency Centre - Paul's story

Interesting.

I'd be interested in knowing where you could find at any age group the average testosterone and to see where you come in relation to this

Will have to do some research.

A few friends of mine have got tested for test now and they all scored 25 (at my age).

I'm thinking that the normal range is kinda nonsense, and I would like to prescribed enough testagel to get a normal range for my age

Would be interesting. Look on Testosterone Deficiency Center - Hypogonadism Kills!- there's a few other interesting (warning long winded) stories...

Most of them however seem to be a combination of mental issues, stress due to marriage & friends, depression, axieties, and also low testosterone.... eg. no sex drive, limited weight gain, small testicles... etc. I guess you need to work out which are low testosterone symptoms and which are unrelated symptoms.

Originally Posted by raaqi

I just read this coincidentally... wow!

The Testosterone Deficiency Centre - Paul's story

at story sounds like me! accept for the cancer thank god! but my testosterone is low normal but it is low for a 23 yr old guy. i am always tired, run down, lack energy, etc... stupid doctors always dismiss people... this guy had 11nmol/L, mine is 18nmol/L and for a guy my age the normal amount is 27nmol/L. my levels are in the range of men in their 60s... wtf?

dont believe me? check my research http://www.mens-hormonal-health.com/...ne-levels.html

and

http://www.vin.com/scripts/labquest/converthtml.pl

By the way, it was interesting in that article that the author mentioned low test/low SHBG being fine because low SHBG free's up testosterone. My Test is 12 nmols/l and SHBG 13nmols/L.

I've managed to put on a little weight, I don't have bitch tits, never had issues with uneven fat storage, testicles are normal size (had scans done), always had FANTASTIC erections *grabs penis with two hands*.... I'm not sure whether i'd consider my test low... even though the numbers indicate it. I know that i DO have a hard time gaining weight, though i have still managed to put on about 10kg of muscle in 3 years.

I had lower T than you but a comparable SHGB

Yes no bitch tits, normal testical size etc, but no libido, energy, and difficulty gaining mass and poor muscle recovery.

i guess I will know whether the testogel improves these soon. I decided to quit my caffeine addiction this week as I need to to give the testosterone any chance of improving my headaches. But the withdrawals mean its not really possible to judge the energy benefits at this stage for the test, although I noticed that in the first few days b4 quitting caffeine they were better.

Originally Posted by raaqi

By the way, it was interesting in that article that the
author mentioned low test/low SHBG being fine because low SHBG free's up testosterone. My Test is 12 nmols/l and SHBG 13nmols/L.

I've managed to put on a little weight, I don't have bitch tits, never had issues with uneven fat storage, testicles are normal size (had scans done), always had FANTASTIC erections *grabs penis with two hands*.... I'm not sure whether i'd consider my test low... even though the numbers indicate it. I know that i DO have a hard time gaining weight, though i have still managed to put on about 10kg of muscle in 3 years.

Bro i reckon that's the best decision you made. Caffene fucks with your brain, endorphins, is an addictive substance, and you begin to rely on it as a source of energy rather than good eating...

Also, an apple in the morning will do more for you than a cup of coffee. No shit.

Good luck.

And I can give you a score of research papers that tout the benefits, including medical and health benefits, of caffeine...

I'd be interested in seeing some of that research. I certainly don't need caffeine, it keeps me awake and is a diuretic... ;-)

Originally Posted by mondo

this guy had 11nmol/L, mine is 18nmol/L and for a guy my age the normal amount is 27nmol/L. my levels are in the range of men in their 60s... wtf?

dont believe me? check my research Normal Testosterone Levels - Testosterone levels in men facts and what to aim for.

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Chemistry Conversion

Wow that's interesting, but for all we know those figures got pulled out of someones back orifice. No mention of where those numbers came from. I did a spreadsheet (attached). So you can see the numbers.

Aparently I have the test levels of an 85-90 yo. Woo! Now that I think about it, 12 nmol/L of test does fall within "Normal" range. But normal for WHOM? An 85yo???