Thread: My 2 month progress

Close to 30% IMo

I wouldn't be overly worried about numbers right now mate. This is just my opinion so take it or leave it. Numbers can become an obsession that slows your progress. I would pick a simple goal, such as get bigger/get leaner, and use diet an training to move towards it - and let the mirror be your guide.

I used to find that I'd feel like I was looking better and heading towards where I wanted to end up, my motivation was peeking, only to be crushed when I jumped on the scales and found I was, numerically, exactly the same as I was a month ago.

Cheers

We did a little comparison thingo at uni btwn scales and calipers and both figures were pretty psycho.

I ahve to agree with Mark here.

Numbers don't bother me.. I tell everyone my weight and there like :O but i know in myself it doesn't matter.. I can lift a fair amount, and i have the knowladge of BB.

Does anyone think, by summer, i will have next to abs, on dave palumbo's keto diet?
I've already started, and that's my goal. Look mad for summer.

Thanks all for the guesses and support.

Originally Posted by Jaiman

Does anyone think, by summer, i will have next to abs, on dave palumbo's keto diet?
I've already started, and that's my goal. Look mad for summer.

If you get lean enough to get abs you are just going to look like a skinny guy who has never been in a gym. Why not write off this summer and spend the next twelve months getting serious in the gym and building some muscle?

Just my opinion.

Tim

Good advice from Tim i reckon Jaiman.

Originally Posted by Big Tim

If you get lean enough to get abs you are just going to look like a skinny guy who has never been in a gym. Why not write off this summer and spend the next twelve months getting serious in the gym and building some muscle?

Just my opinion.

Tim

If your bf% is as high as some here arguing (30%), it would be very difficult to lose the 1% bf per week to gain abs by the year's end.

Many argue however that at lower levels of bf% insulin sensitivity is better, and therefore accordingly you will get better LBM relative to bodyfat gains when bulking.

I agree with Big Tim re cutting to "get the abs", however, I think cutting to a lower level of bf% (15-18) may still be in your clean bulking interest.

I didn't mean worry in the strict sense of concern, at this point in your training using bf measurements and weight, etc, aren't that helpfull to you right now. You want to look a certin way - so go by looks.

I agree with the advice above. Your not going to have mad anything by summer. Instead of appearance goals I think your goals should be performance/training related. Set goals to increase strength & conditioning. Eat clean & healthy & be strict on yourself. Don't miss workouts. Quit drinking & smoking. Train hard & in time you'll build the body you want.

I actually recommend going ahead with your cut. It'll make you look more "in shape". I personally wouldn't go with keto (because my understanding is you cannot gain muscle while on it, never tried it btw) but if you already started it, then finish what you started.

Building muscle takes time, and your still young and have all the time in the world to do it. Besides, I don't reckon you'll look like a skinny guy whose never been to a gym, I can see some muscle under there. Better to get lean now, than to "bulk" and risk getting fatter (especially at your apparent bodyfat level). No point doing all this training to not look "in shape" IMO when that seems to be your goal.

The bottom line is, leaning up is a faster process than building muscle which you have plenty of time to do and I'm confident in saying that you'll be very pleased with the results.

Better to get it done and out of the way.

Originally Posted by Tranquilo

Your not going to have mad anything by summer.

Don't worry about that. The main thing is that YOU'RE GOING TO BE CLOSER TO YOUR GOAL. And look a hell of a lot more "in shape"" than what you do now.

All the best with it. Stay strong Jaiman, AND STICK WITH YOUR GOAL!!!! Because you've already set one. No ifs or buts, just do it! (fuck you Nike )

Based on those pics and the goals you have presented, I would suggest that you go balls to the wall hard at cutting for the next 2 months and try to strip off as much bf as possible, that means superstrict diet, no drinking, no smoking, lots of cardio, etc... Then re-evaluate yourself after that point and see if you want to continue down that path or try to gain some lean mass....

Agree with mark in that numbers are certainly not important at this point, except for maybe measurements, as for bf% and scale weight, I wouldn't worry about it too much...

I got some muscle on me atm, can't really see it there.. It's not massive, but i wouldn't look scrawny i have a big build..

I just want to be able to walk around in a tank, feel and look good

EDIT: As if i wouldn't cut? Dude im like around 30%.. i think i need to get rid of that first?

MEAL #1
5 whole eggs (make sure to buy OMEGA-3 EGGS from the supermarket. They contain virtually NO saturated fat and tons of good OMEGA-3 fats); add another 4 egg whites to this (they don?t need to be the Omega-3 ones; you can use liquid egg whites)

MEAL #2
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoon of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar)

MEAL #3
"Lean Protein Meal": 8oz chicken with 1/2-cup cashew nuts (almonds, or walnuts)

MEAL #4
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoons of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar added)

MEAL #5
"Fatty Protein Meal": 8oz Salmon, Swordfish, or RED MEAT with a green salad (no tomatoes, carrots, or red peppers) with 1 tablespoon of Olive Oil or Macadamia nut oil and vinegar

MEAL #6
SHAKE: 50g Whey with 1 ? tablespoon all natural peanut butter or 4 whole (Omega-3) eggs and 4 extra whites

Is that your Keto diet Jaiman?

What is the macro content? One thing I know from keto'ing myself is you HAVE to hit your macros on keto for it to work correctly thats all. Least thats my view.

You going to do ketostix or anything?

I don't know my LBM because of BF%..

Ketostix- Nah, arn't they only for checking if your in ketosis?



Dave palumbo diet

ok so you dont know your LBM. you could make a pretty close guess.

but that diet needs a breakdown dude. how many grams of fat/prot/carbs. paramount for keto.

ketostix arent required no. so you are aware of the physical indicators then of when you are in ketosis? or am i missing something and you arent going keto?