Thread: Starting to Bulk on CKD

You'll find that once you really get into it, the AD is just a CKD and on the loading days for the first few you may "eat what ever you want" but that gets old fast.

It'll generally make you feel pretty bad during/after and does kinda spin your wheels a bit. Unless of course your at such a deficit during the week you genuinely require a "refeed" which is more of what you're talking about.

It is a carb load at heart still, just there more fat utilized which keeps calories a bit higher/easier to obtain, than general, it originally being a mass diet afterall.

Have a read through the Metabolid Diet thread. I generally recommend what works best for you through self trial, if that means pigging out a few times then getting to a proper "carb load" that's just fine, just as long as you find your middle ground and that it really works for you.

Remember measure consistantly, use the mirror, the scale is a tool and a poor one at that.

As long as you're getting stronger every week and keeping your log book honest, that's all that matters.

Regards,

-Mitch.

Thanks Mitch,

Tell you what mate you are spot on about the "eat whatever you want" mumbo jumbo.

Two carb-loads and I am over eating crap, it was good having ice-cream for the first time in a while; but I think I hate Pizza hut pizza lol...

The breakfast was the best, first time I had had oats in a month and I look forward to next week. I think i'll be loading on cereal all day.

Thanks for the advice, I will keep reading through the thread soon; just finish reading the AD book to get some more information.

I'll probably use the body-fat measure bi-weekly or so as a consistent measure of my progress in the fat department and weights as a measure of strength.

I know if I pay too much attention to the scale, I will just think I'm getting fat...

after trying both... i believe re-feeding often is better than once a week (but knowing your limit, refeed doesn't mean pig out and over-spill).

Therefore refeeding each workout, before and after with carbs feels better for your system than doing 1 weekly sugar binge (easy to over-spill). I found that totally counter-productive.

A much more advanced way is to take the science of the diet, that 1 step further, adapting it to how YOU feel.

So technically, i don't call them refeeds, i call them timed carbs. Cycling the carbs much more like have high, low, med carb days. Dictated on your activity levels... I may be rambling, but i do not think the average person needs or wants to hit ketosis itself, sure if your stepping on stage, but take the science and use it, you don't need to hit keto to have an effective diet. *especially* bulking.

just my 2 cents

Thanks for that C_T,

I may try the targeted approach later on down the track; the reason I currently want to go down the 1 day a week re-feed is to allow myself more of the foods that I wouldn't be supposed to eat on weekdays.
By this I don't mean pizza, lollies , sugar etc; I mean more like cereal, brown rice, roti etc...

And I guess in my present situation with my weight so low comparatively speaking; I should be able to get away with the re-feeds and possible over-spill that may occur; or at least that's what I'm hoping anyways lol...

Definitely will heed your advice on knowing what my limit is and not going overboard, still experimenting to find out where my limit lies.