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    i prefer to use MElrose's MCT Oil
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    This is the one I get and take: Nutiva, Organic Extra Virgin Coconut Oil, 54 oz (1532 g) - iHerb.com



    I get it because it actually states exactly what is inside (or is not) and not simply organic, cold pressed, and virgin. There is no refinement in any way whatsoever...Not refined, deodorized, or bleached.


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    is it better than butter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3aq|e View Post
    is it better than butter?
    Description

    * A Deliciously Healthy Cooking Oil
    * Better than Butter <------
    * USDA Organic
    * No Hexane
    * Rich in Lauric Acid
    * Unrefined & No Trans Fats
    * A Soothing Body Oil
    * Nature's Ideal All-Purpose Cooking Oil

    must be :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fadi View Post
    Hey Fadi, I always thought it was advisable to avoid consuming oils that are solid at room temps due to their vein/artery clogging properties, or is this just another food myth? I'm totally ignorant to the benefits/properties of coconut oil so if you don't mind would you please explain why you'd choose this oil over say a quality extra virgin olive.
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    1st reason being olive oil and all those turn to transfat when heated but coconut oilcan be heated up to 350c before turning bad so it's much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquilo View Post
    Hey Fadi, I always thought it was advisable to avoid consuming oils that are solid at room temps due to their vein/artery clogging properties, or is this just another food myth? I'm totally ignorant to the benefits/properties of coconut oil so if you don't mind would you please explain why you'd choose this oil over say a quality extra virgin olive.
    Check out http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org

    Only ever ingest cold- pressed organic coconut oil - DO NOT ingest coconut oil found in the suntan lotion section of your supermarket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquilo View Post
    I'm totally ignorant to the benefits/properties of coconut oil so if you don't mind would you please explain why you'd choose this oil over say a quality extra virgin olive.
    Tran, I am sure Fadi will able to tell you much more, but my .02:

    Coconut oil is the richest source of medium chained fatty acids which not only has desirable physical characteristics (isn't prone to oxidative damage when cooked - think trans fat formation and other nasty changes commonly seen with omega6 oils which are long chained), but provides many physiological benefits amongst which is metabolism stimulation (thyroid and cardiovascular healthy) making it very 'diet' friendly.

    Due to its chemical structure, many of the benefits of coconut oil extend to the realm of skin care too.

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    We had a thread on different oils to use didnt we? I couldnt find it.
    Whats the deal with advocado oil and cooking? is that ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquilo View Post
    Hey Fadi, I always thought it was advisable to avoid consuming oils that are solid at room temps due to their vein/artery clogging properties, or is this just another food myth? I'm totally ignorant to the benefits/properties of coconut oil so if you don't mind would you please explain why you'd choose this oil over say a quality extra virgin olive.
    Hi Tranquilo,

    Yes I know what you mean mate. I mean just by observing that fat being solid make one think arteriosclerosis/heart attacks galore!!! Nothing could be further from that notion my friend. If you know the cause of heart problems than you'd come to love and appreciate if nothing more about this mighty fat, than just the stability it has to offer is way way more than enough to make one fall head over heel for it. Opposite to a fat being stable is unstable and that can only spell "yummy yummy" for the oxidation machinery in our bodies that is waiting to pounce on such an opportunity and kill us...by attacking the unstable fats, causing oxidation and free radicals which you and I Tranquilo (and everyone else on the forum) is so busy trying to ward off by insuring a top notch intake of some mighty powerful; antioxidants.

    To sum up the above so far, we're looking at the following

    1. Stable fat vs. unstable fat (now you know why I always advice against the consumption of that devilish oil; flaxseed oil). I'm sure I'll get someone opposing my opinion on that and I welcome it…

    2. Unstable fat is heaven for the spawn of free radicals. Free radicals are highly reactive, unstable molecules that cause damage to healthy cells, leading to internal aging as well as visible signs of external aging. Free radicals damage lipids, proteins, and DNA (DNA is present in the nucleus of almost every cell, stores all genetic information, and dictates cellular functions). Flaxseed oil anyone?!
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    Okay, so far I have only touched on some health aspects of coconut oil by way of prevention. Now let me give you some direct benefits of this mighty fat.

    You know we’ve reached the moon with our technology, yet we can’t even produce a single anti-virus drug! Antibacterial, antifungal…yes, but not antiviral. Well I wouldn’t be mentioning it if coconut oil didn’t have it now would I! This powerful fat has all the three “antis” mentioned above. No, that does not mean you take a teaspoon when you have a cold and hope the virus is dead. That is not how it works, but rather its power is in the way it builds your own body’s defence mechanism to deal with a bug that wants to “bug” you. There’s even talk and experiments on the deadliest of all viruses, the AIDS virus.

    So how can or why is it possible for coconut oil to achieve the above? It’s because approximately 50 percent of the fatty acids in coconut fat are lauric acid. Just before I tell you what this unique fatty acid does, let me tell you that the only other good source of lauric acid is mother’s milk. If I may digress a bit Tranquilo, I remember reading one time that the closest in chemical composition to a mother’s milk is the fruit “fig”, which just happens to be my favourite when dried up and had with walnuts, Mmmm just yummy and amazingly healthy for you. Okay, back to lauric acid. Dr Mary Enig, one of the leading authorities on fats, tells us Lauric acid is a medium chain fatty acid, which has the additional beneficial function of being formed into monolaurin in the human or animal body. Monolaurin is the antiviral, antibacterial, and antiprotozoal monoglyceride used by the human or animal to destroy lipid coated viruses such as HIV, herpes, cytomegalovirus, influenza, various pathogenic bacteria including listeria monocytogenes and heliobacter pylori, and protozoa such as giardia lamblia. Some studies have also shown some antimicrobial effects of the free lauric acid.

    How is or what makes coconut oil special for us athletes?

    Well, we know that the fatty acids are composed of medium chain triglycerides (MCFA/MCT) as opposed to long chain triglycerides or fatty acids for one (LCFA). MCFA are easy to digest and quickly go on to produce energy and stimulate the metabolism 100% Pure Virgin Coconut Oil and Hypothyroidism now that can not be a bad thing for athletic performance in any athlete’s book.

    Did you know that one gram of fat coming from coconut oil yields 8.3 calories (which are readily available) vs. 9 from all other types of fat which are not as readily available?!

    Before I stop, (I’ve dragged it a bit I’m sorry), I’d like to leave you with what I consider to be the ultimate as far as the way MCFA act with insulin (my favourite hormone). Well this powerhouse of a fat ameliorates insulin resistance. In plain and simple English, this means that this fat prevents peripheral insulin resistance which means it can prevent obesity or as in our case, prevents the bodybuilder from gaining fat. So it’s a case of having the fat that helps you burn fat or at least not gain fat from having it.

    Remember in my last article on “losing fat, the diet approach” and throughout the “diets” that I’ve written here, you’ll always find one theme running throughout and that is how to time insulin so as to take advantage of its muscle anabolic power whilst at the same time minimizing on its fat anabolism (by paying close attention to insulin resistance and sensitivity).
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    http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org.../2547.abstract

    To all those bodybuilders on SM who are on a keto type diet or a low carb/high fat, my advise to you is to really take advantage of coconut oil and all the benefits it has on offer as far as quick energy release whilst at the same time protecting you from insulin resistance that your high fat diet can promote. Something to think about at least and I’ll leave it here.

    I thank you for taking the time to read.

    PS: At what temperature does coconut oil go solid?

    It goes solid at about 24°C. As it cools from the liquid state, (26°C and above) it forms small "pearls" which join together until the whole product is solid at 24°C. When cooling faster in a fridge the pearls are much larger and the oil can appear more translucent. I would love nothing more than to be able to include it in my protein/carb shakes but it's simply impossible (unless of course you don't mind having "pearls")! To anyone here who has liquid coconut oil that remains in a liquid state at all times, please do your good self a huge favour and throw it away immediately! Off topic, (and in exactly the opposite direction now) is for anyone who has a polyunsaturated oil that is solid at all times (as in margarine for example), would be wise to throw that disease causing rubbish away immediately also.


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    Thanks mcheath1 for the link and thanks Fadi for the indepth explanation. MY question is when would be the best time to take this and with current fat intake, would you substitute as much as possible from other sources such as nuts?

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    Yeah thanks Fadi & the others who replied. I might have to add coconut oil to my diet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acejas View Post
    Thanks mcheath1 for the link and thanks Fadi for the indepth explanation. MY question is when would be the best time to take this and with current fat intake, would you substitute as much as possible from other sources such as nuts?
    Hello Ace,

    The daily recommended dosage is 4 tablespoons, which means 60mls. However my advice to anyone attempting to include MCT into their daily eating plan is to introduce it gradually so as to avoid any unnecessary tummy issues. So I'd stick with the best of the best here and include such fats as coconut oil, extra virgin olive oil, extra virgin avocado oil, extra virgin macadamia oil, egg yolks, almonds, DHA (up to 2g/day) with DHA to EPA ratio of between 5-7:1. Stay as far away as you can from such oils as canola (macular degenerating/eye blinding) oil, safflower, sunflower, corn, margarine, cottonseed, soy, etc.

    If you're wondering as to why I'm so particular when it comes to the omega 3 type oils, it's because taking fish oil capsules as sold in the market would be more detrimental to your health than if you had not taken them in the first place. I know, you won't be hearing or reading about such a bomb drop from anyone any time soon. But to have fish oil is to have a very high ratio of EPA to DHA when it's supposed to be the other way around due to two major reasons I can think of right now.

    1. Immune system suppression
    2. High doses of fish oil can increase the risk of bleeding, slow the speed in which your blood clots and increase the risk of a hemorrhagic stroke (that's the EPA for you, here and in #1 above)!

    It is best to use coconut oil three times a day at meal times. Again, start slowly. Here's a copy an paste as to the logic of taking such action: The lauric acid in coconut oil is antibacterial, anti-protozoal and antiviral and there could be a "die off" effect as offending organisms are removed from the body. This could cause diarrhea (not in itself a bad thing under the circumstances) but it could be inconvenient. It is probably best not to start with the daily recommended dosage of 3 to 4 tbsps, but build up to it over the course of a few days if necessary.


    Fadi.

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    Thanks for all the input guys.

    Fadi, thank you for the thorough information.

    A quick question regarding the coconut oil if I may, Fadi:

    Apart from destroying the inherent antioxdiant properties of the oil, if you are on a budget, would certified organic RBD coconut oil still provide some of the benefits such as speeding the metabolism etc, or is it a case of virgin coconut olive oil or nothing at all?


    Thank you in advance :)

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    Lots of info on this page. Just scroll up.

    Melrose coconut oil types



    I use the one from Fiji

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