Thread: Adrenal Fix-Fatigue Be Gone!

A while ago i was reading this Alchemy book, written by an Indian guy.

An ancient observation for workers in the heat, those with high sodium and potassium diets would not feel the heat/fatigue as much as those that had lower dietary intakes... I forget the other significance, but was very interesting and went against the grain of "we already eat too much salt in our diets" which was fed to me in sports nutrition in highschool.

Originally Posted by croft1010

Hi Fadi, thanks for this... I heard that the magical ingredient in Powerade is actually just Salt!... would drinking one of these have the same effect as your potion?

I have not heard of nor seen that product Croft. I just checked Powerade and got this for ingredients with the exception of Fructose which is not used in the products sold Down Under.

Water
High fructose corn syrup
Salt
Potassium citrate
Phenylalanine
Sucralose
Sodium Citrate
Malic Acid
Potassium phosphate
Vitamin B6
Vitamin B2

Powerade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now according to Dr. James Wilson PhD, an expert on adrenal fatigue, he gives an example of adrenal fatigue symptoms.

Symptoms of adrenal fatigue:

Morning fatigue -- You don't really seem to "wake up" until 10 a.m., even if you've been awake since 7 a.m.
Afternoon "low" (feelings of sleepiness or clouded thinking) from 2 to 4 p.m.
Burst of energy at 6 p.m. -- You finally feel better from your afternoon lull.
Sleepiness at 9 to 10 p.m. -- However, you resist going to sleep.
"Second wind" at 11 p.m. that lasts until about 1 a.m., when you finally go to sleep.
Cravings for foods high in salt and fat
Increased PMS or menopausal symptoms
Mild depression
Lack of energy
Decreased ability to handle stress
Muscular weakness
Increased allergies
Lightheadedness when getting up from a sitting or laying down position
Decreased sex drive
Frequent sighing
Inability to handle foods high in potassium or carbohydrates unless they're combined with fats and protein.

Now the way I see it is like this: Aldosterone is an adrenal gland released hormone. When the adrenal glands are not functioning at an optimal level due to been constantly "stressed", then a drop occurs in the sodium/potassium regulating hormone Aldosterone. When that occurs, you can wave goodbye to your sodium. But there's more. Sodium does not like to leave by itself since it gets very lonely that way and insists on dragging some much needed water out with it!

Now we've come to something called dehydration as well as sodium deficiency! Really? I told you I won't be politically correct here. We are usually told to drink water and/or have a banana, which is full of that wonderful mineral potassium. Nothing could be worst I say. Why I hear you ask? It's because by doing so, you'd only be rubbing salt into the wound (I wish and no pun intended by the way). The initial problem is low sodium and water. By adding water (without sodium), you might as well be pouring water into a bucket with a hole in it. And to add potassium when sodium is what is needed would only serve to keep the sodium and potassium ratio out of whack even further…prolonging our fatigue and the mean of recovering from it.

Now if anyone doesn’t like what I wrote and simple disagrees with it, then fine. Water is very cheap, salt is cheaper, and half a lemon won’t break the bank account I’m sure. So what have you got to lose? Give the SLW combo a go; it may be just what you need.


Fadi.

I had a client who ended up with some form of chemical poisoning from a palm nursery he owned. He drinks a glass of salt water every day as well as lemoin juice in all his water.

Originally Posted by soriminah

I had a client who ended up with some form of chemical poisoning from a palm nursery he owned. He drinks a glass of salt water every day as well as lemoin juice in all his water.

You mean to say he got chemical poisoning from drinking what I'm suggesting? I'm sorry Soriminah, I may have misunderstood you above, so could you please clarify what this man was actually poisoned by? Thank you.


Fadi.

[QUOTE=Fadi;357313

Water
High fructose corn syrup
Salt
Potassium citrate
Phenylalanine
Sucralose
Sodium Citrate
Malic Acid
Potassium phosphate
Vitamin B6
Vitamin B2
[/QUOTE]

I have posted in the past that all those "electrolyte" drinks are just sugar, salt and water, with some nasty crap added to make it taste good. Looking at the above:

Water (well I guess you need this)
High fructose corn syrup (Spawn of the devil. The most evil substance on the planet, after George Bush that is. Possibly the main culprit in todays obesity epidemic, or at least the foundation of it. Used to make things taste sweet, a sugar substitute.)
Salt (Needed in an electrolyte drink because that is what electrolytes are.)
Potassium citrate (an acidity buffer and diuretic. Not sure why you would want a diruetic in an electrolyte drink)
Phenylalanine (A sneaky way of saying "aspartame", a nasty artificial sweetner.)
Sucralose (Sugar. Just what a fat person needs after 10 min on a cardio walking machine. Not.)
Sodium Citrate (Flavouring.)
Malic Acid (A flavour used to add a tart taste, such as that found in salt and vinegar chips or those sour snake jellies.)
Potassium phosphate (one of the cell salts. See Fadi's comments about sodium and potassium balance.)
Vitamin B6
Vitamin B2

So compared to Fadi's salt and lemon drink, the above commercial drink will drain your pocket and make you fatter. If you want to make an imitation of the above, take a quarter bottle of orange juice, add half a teaspoon of salt and maybe a quarter cup of sugar. Add water to fill the bottle. Maybe this is something that would be of some use if you were running a marathon in Darwin or Cairns, but hardly useful in an air conditioned gym.

Fadi: I think you are possibly missing the point of some of the posts. We are all agreeing with you.

I have actual adrenal fatigue (cortisol above normal range; DHEA below clinical range).

This combo did nothing for me. Lemon juice for whatever reason makes me feel worse.

Spinach, BTW, is the most alkaline food

LOL....no Fadi, he has a Palm Nursery and the fertilisers he was using, he ended up with toxic overload and posioned himself. He went to a naturopath who told him to drink salt water and lemon juice to help clear out his system.

Fadi,

Would you see any benefit by having the concoction just prior to workout or does the onset of fatigue need to have set in (ie. half way through like you originally suggest) ?

Or alternatively I guess some upfront, the rest sipped throughout the workout ?

Thanks !

I saw a few people talking about salt on here and wether it is good for you or not.

As an endurance athlete I can share that it is vitally critical to performing for any length of time if you are sweating.

Salt, magnesium, water, pottasium - you have to keep them all up.

Some athletes even run with salt sticks that they can lick as they are running.

Personally, I use Endura Recovery which contains all of the above.

Before I started using Endura I suffered massive cramps on my big training days. I would make it through 3 hours in the morning and 2 hours in the evening. The second evening hour was in the pool and I would be almost drowning by halfway through because I couldn't kick without cramping up.

These ingredients are the charmers in your drinks like Poweraide and Gatoraide. Things like your corn syrup are added for some extra carbs and others are added so it can be sold to the masses.

Originally Posted by Hogan

Fadi: I think you are possibly missing the point of some of the posts. We are all agreeing with you.

You're right, and thank you for pointing that out Hogan.


Fadi.

Originally Posted by soriminah

LOL....no Fadi, he has a Palm Nursery and the fertilisers he was using, he ended up with toxic overload and posioned himself. He went to a naturopath who told him to drink salt water and lemon juice to help clear out his system.

I wasn't sure hence my question. Thank you so much for the clarification and sorry for any inconvinience caused Soriminah.


Fadi.

Originally Posted by Raptor

Fadi,

Would you see any benefit by having the concoction just prior to workout or does the onset of fatigue need to have set in (ie. half way through like you originally suggest) ?

Or alternatively I guess some upfront, the rest sipped throughout the workout ?

Thanks !

You bring some great points/questions to the table Raptor, thank you.

Sure you can do all the alternatives you've suggested above and see what works best for you. However the reason I did not suggest taking that particular drink just prior to the workout was because I would have still be "riding" on what I've taken 1 to 1 1/2 hours before. Namely, tyrosine and NADH. The latter I have not mentioned on any forum before, but then again there are so many things I haven't talked about...yet!

So that would go something like this:
1 hour before exercise, you take 1 350mg capsule of N-Acetyl Tyrosine
30 minutes before taking the above, you take 2.5mg-5mg NADH
Both of these items are taken on an empty stomach with the exception of some juice taken with the tyrosine to stimulate some insulin release which will drive this amino acid into the brain.

I haven't begun to talk about Taurine, calcium, magnesium, creatine, B12 etc. I'll leave that for some other time now. There are so many things one can take. I look at it as an arsenal of extremely heavy duty weaponry. All are great but the strategy of usage is in the timing…amongst other things.


Fadi.

Great, thanks Fadi. Something to play around with and experiment.

Cheers !

Originally Posted by Fadi

I wasn't sure hence my question. Thank you so much for the clarification and sorry for any inconvinience caused Soriminah.


Fadi.

No inconvenience at all. Just goes to show how things can get lost in translation. :)

Fadi,
Interesting, is the main aim of this to keep your ph levels in an alkalising state rather than an acidic?
If so have you heard of the theory of Bicarb Soda to buffer lactic acid?